Megaduck wrote:Something I noticed wasn't touched on. Jillian comes in and basically tells Ansom 'You're mine' and Ansom say's 'No, I'm not.' It now looks like she's going to mind rape him into being that way.
What's the morality of all this? By earth standards this would be a Moral Event Horizon.
I hate Jillian. I think she's way too much at the center of everybody's (Jack, Wanda, Ansom, Vinny, Charlie, Don etc) various concerns, and is a shallow petulant character that does not deserve that distinction of being the central point in Erfworld's diagram.
However, if she tried to turn Ansom, I doubt that's a Moral Event Horizon, because a) she believes that Ansom, the Ansom she knew, would want to be rescued (turned) and b) my impression of Jillian has a hard time reconciling with premeditated, hardcore evil, for Jillian does not premeditate. I'd argue a MEH cannot apply to "crimes of passion".
Or of course, she just may discover that if she can bend people to her will, she can as well explore that possibility ... so yeah, that would take a turn to the darker side.
WRT to moral event horizons, it's funny because Old Ansom would have wanted someone to rescue him from the Decrypted state that New Ansom was grateful for because it freed him from what he now considers to be an irrational loyalty to a flawed world view, whereas New Ansom will probably fight being turned tooth and nail but will be grateful for his freedom if he is turned back into Old Ansom. Mind raping seems to me to be less of a moral hazard in a world where it seems that everyone is under some form of mind control. I suspect that even the rulers
are magically compelled to support the old Titanic Mandate -- Slately's support for RRC1 seems to have been wholly excessive in light of how small a threat Stanley posed before Parson showed up, Bea committed suicide rather than submit to Toolism, and Don King shifted from a lax monarchy to a very hands-on one in response to the Toolist Crusade. Heck, even Sammy, despite harboring treacherous designs on Jetstone, was toying with abandoning his father's plan and acting as a real ally even before Charlie removed all his other options. That's why I don't think Haggar will ally with GK even though he now has good reason to.
WRT Jillian's unlikability, I don't really care for her either. It concerns me that so many people are in love with her or at least dote on her. It reminds me too much of Buffy post-S3, and that's not a good sign. While I still enjoy Erfworld, we've spent way
too long focusing on characters who are not The Protagonist. And where the hell has Sizemore been all this time!