3) Charlie has units in GW's battlespace (they had archons act this day in one of the text updates while within range of attacking GW) WITHOUT GW being aware that they were there (We have not seen GW act like they are aware someone has a turn before them).
SteveMB wrote:The question is getting Wanda to honor the offer. They could keep going back and forth: offer, honor, offer, honor....
*no I'm not
jinzil wrote:Jillian's behaviour puzzles me, for as she can be reckless and vengeful, she is usually not stupid. Failure to turn Ansom is most likely not due to the Turnamancer's limited juice, but because Ansom is essentially the creation and follower of an Arkentool. Perhaps Ansom will turn into dust as Wanda is croaked, but even if Wanda survives, the Arkenpliers may be necessary to make Ansom alive again- but said Pliers will then be on a living Wanda in the almost untakeable fortress of Gobwin Knob. It would seem more logical to try take Wanda prisoner with their combined forces, as Slately may be interested himself in seeing his two lost sons returned to a living status, if only to prevent his costly investment in popping them go to waste.
*shrugs* Anyway, we'll see.
jinzil wrote:Jillian's behaviour puzzles me, for as she can be reckless and vengeful, she is usually not stupid.
gazes_also wrote:Jillian has done all the heavy lifting for RCC in this battle so far so she is quite reasonable in leaving the boys to sort out the rest of it.
She has prevented GK from destroying spacerock, neutralized the ground column as an effective force by removing Ansom and kept Charlie's involvement more or less secret, and those who do know about Charlie (with the exception of Trammenis, who can be counted on to be discrete) will assume he's working for her not vice versa.
MarbitChow wrote:Re: Charlie's motives - I don't think Charlie said he wanted a chance to turn Ansom explicitly.
I think Charlie wanted Ansom dead, to eliminate the bonus and remove him as a distraction for Jillian.
I hypothesize that Charlie also speculated, in conversations w/ Jillian, that he'd like a chance to try to turn a (random) decrypted unit, to see if it's possible.
Jillian grabs Ansom and uses the "let's see if we can turn him" excuse to get exactly what she wants.
gazes_also wrote:So yes, Spacely will screw up and Wanda will survive, but Charlie still has his turn to come before Wanda can move.
BLANDCorporatio wrote:Wait. Why?
I mean the dusting part. I know that Parson mentioned that as a possibility (an unconfirmed one), and then there's the thing that uncroaked tend to recroak if the Croakamancer that made them is offed (but again, how do we know this? it never happened on-screen).
Of course, Parson does not know, Jillian does not know, nobody really knows what happens to Decrypted, should Wanda be made to push up the daisies. So Jillian would not want to risk that.
However, it's a rampant item on this forum that croaked Wanda => dusted Ansom. And so I ask how do we know/why do we believe this?
name lips wrote:Also, it does look like she's the main character of this book. So far, Parson's been little more than background decor.
fruityjanitor wrote:\Another possible theory for "why did Charlie tell Hagar to kill Ansom when he apparently was interested in seeing if he could be turned?": Charlie just wants to see if Decrypted in general can be turned (possibly so he can try to get some of his girls back), but he doesn't care what Decrypted he tests turning spells on. So he needs ANY captured, decrypted unit to try it out on. Since there are plenty of decrypted besides Ansom, he didn't care if Ansom died. But, now that Jillian has Ansom captured, Charlie might as well try it out on him.
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