I just thought - Jillian's actions her likely won't won't make Slately think more of her. I hope we get to see a bit of the king raging about that unreliable barbarian Queen.
MarbitChow wrote:Re: Charlie's motives - I don't think Charlie said he wanted a chance to turn Ansom explicitly.
I think Charlie wanted Ansom dead, to eliminate the bonus and remove him as a distraction for Jillian.
I hypothesize that Charlie also speculated, in conversations w/ Jillian, that he'd like a chance to try to turn a (random) decrypted unit, to see if it's possible.
Jillian grabs Ansom and uses the "let's see if we can turn him" excuse to get exactly what she wants.
That actually sounds quite likely.
And perhaps Jillian's "But I don't..." would have ended with "think that'll be necessary". Maybe Jillian is all about the power of love and thinks having Ansom amongst friends (her and Vinnie) with Vanna doing her thing that will be enough.
atalex wrote:Here's an idea: an Erfworlder decrypted by the pliers has no cost. If the dish can be used to break Wanda's control, then the result is a living, independent being with no upkeep cost. In other words, a free person who is not dependent on the whims of a ruler for his or her existence. If Parson is prophesied to "break Erfworld" and bring about lasting peace, one way to do that would be to make Erfworlders fully independent beings not subject to disbanding the first time they refuse to fight in their rulers' wars.
Indeed. While it is all speculation I like the idea that a decrypted can be turned (if with much greater difficulty) or break free (or be broken free), rather then them be eternally loyal to Wanda. At least non-decrypted can turn it seems, if they want to, or with a little help.
Lamech wrote:So... lets see, the royals can know Jillian has: not attacked Wanda, somehow got Hagar to throw away units, then took the most valuable unit from the now weakened stack, and left. Sure they might assume that Hagar was a traitor, but I think Hagar has really good grounds to push the issue. The alliance can't really say, "We assume you were traitors, so we're okay with backstabbing you" and still expect Hagar's help.
Well Trem knows Jillian and Charlie have something worked out, though he might have been thinking Jillian had just hired him, not that it was more of a partnership (although Jillian and Sammy words might have changed his mind). He also knows Charlie was somehow involved in Haggar fighting as they did.
I'm not sure Haggar can really push back to much. Jetstone might only have (correct) suspicions about Haggar, but Charlie was spying on their column, how likely would it be for him to have recording of them discussing betraying the RCCII? Let alone the threat that got them to fight as they did. Still, I could imagine the Haggarites deciding to quit the field as well. Although they were rather good at shooting down Archons...
SteveMB wrote:It occurs to me that Charlie may have wanted his involvement to leak without being directly acknowleged -- the RCC2s suspcions (which he's trying to allay) make it impossible for them to sign him up as an open ally, but getting his foot in the door and letting word get out that he has done so serves his purposes nicely. Thus, the wink-wink-nudge-nudge loopholes in his non-disclosure contracts may be deliberate.
It would make sense.
Sonic Screwdriver wrote:I'm thinking of the following possibilities in the event of a croaked Wanda...
* Barbarian units with free will, forever
* Barbarian units with free will, until a new Arkenplier wielder arrives
That's the two I imagine seem the most likely. The decrypted seem far to alive to go zombie/auto-dust if Wanda croaks, and other casters seem to think the is life involved as well.
And so my time with the Tardy Elves draws to a close, and I am let to ponder how the experience will... eh, I'll finish later. No need to rush.