Book 2 – Page 34

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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby effataigus » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:07 pm

So, I don't read many comics, but this is already the third comic in which Benjamin Franklin has been either working with, for, or as the undead (Voodoo Ben Franklin in Scud, and cloned Dr. Franklin in Dr. McNinja). Someday I'll have to read his biography and figure out why so many authors are on the same very strange page.

Tramennis' expression galloping in the Roo cracks me up. Regal my foot! He looks like a dog sticking his head out the car window! So joyous. Great art for this page! Also, Bunny... I had thought that only women daydreamed about vampires.

Aye, I'm back in the camp that a straight-up assault using the dismounted airforce would now be a bad idea... probably :D

EDIT: Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?! Just where does Moneymancer money come from?? Oh, and it looks like Bunny is also wearing of those Illuminati necklaces like Maggie.

What?! I wasn't staring!!
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby gameboy1234 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:10 pm

King Don's recap is ... uh, ... a recap.

Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Nebulious » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:14 pm

I love how Benjamin is looking directly at the camera, as if he's saying "Yeah, that's right. I'm Benjamin FRANKLYN."
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Trotsky » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:25 pm

effataigus wrote:Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?! Just where does Moneymancer money come from??


Why from the Skanks, obviously.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby splintermute » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:40 pm

trotsky wrote:
effataigus wrote:Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?! Just where does Moneymancer money come from??


Why from the Skanks, obviously.

That's not a pimp suit - that's just how all the Founding Fathers dressed.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Trotsky » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:52 pm

splintermute wrote:
trotsky wrote:
effataigus wrote:Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?! Just where does Moneymancer money come from??


Why from the Skanks, obviously.

That's not a pimp suit - that's just how all the Founding Fathers dressed.


Sure, ruin the fun with historical facts and contextually accurate information. See if I care.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Lamech » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:15 pm

Is it just me or is the Don being really loose with how he's interpreting the situation in an attempt to make Ceaser look bad? Does he really think anyone would be leave hitting peripheral cities is more important than the croakamancer? Tram doesn't look remotely regal. I do agree with the crap being about to hit the fan. And crap means battlecrap and fan means the Jetstone forces... :twisted:
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Welf von Ehrwald » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:20 pm

splintermute wrote:
trotsky wrote:
effataigus wrote:Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?! Just where does Moneymancer money come from??


Why from the Skanks, obviously.

That's not a pimp suit - that's just how all the Founding Fathers dressed.

Don't worry, both, apparently, works. http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=268

Oh, and nice little dig at Ceasar. "He looks good. Regal" So, looking good means looking regal, and thus being regal is a good thing. I can't wait to see Ceasar to cross the Wubicon.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby yay » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:23 pm

effataigus wrote:EDIT: Also, why is Ben Franklin wearing a PIMP SUIT?!


he is wearing a pimp suit because it's god-damned Benjamin Franklin, he can wear whatever the boop he wants
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby raphfrk » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:26 pm

Btw, assuming that the bombardment option is being deployed.

I find it pretty surprising that nobody else would have thought about it before. Dropping lots of units and accepting a 2/3 rate of attrition is less obvious. Even then, a way to bypass the zone rules off turn, even if there is a penalty should be something that is well known.

Perhaps, units that fire solid projectiles are very rare. However, if there were archers in the airspace, then presumably, they would also be able to hit targets on the ground. Maybe, it only works because acid doesn't need to be moving to do damage.

Also, anyone else think Tremenis has exactly the right pose to be hit from above?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Ansan Gotti » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:30 pm

Ah yes, another page to remind me of how much I dislike Jillian, which dislike seems to increase the more the characters in the book express their wuv of her.

I am happily coming to the view, however, that this is a deliberate authorial choice to make her eventual fall more satisfying. :)
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby splintermute » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:34 pm

raphfrk wrote:Btw, assuming that the bombardment option is being deployed.

I find it pretty surprising that nobody else would have thought about it before. Dropping lots of units and accepting a 2/3 rate of attrition is less obvious. Even then, a way to bypass the zone rules off turn, even if there is a penalty should be something that is well known.

Why would it be well known? Outside of the KingWorld spell (and Charlie's foolish decision in Book 1), this particular situation might never have arisen before in the history of Erf - if you're going to attack a city, and your units don't have enough move left to transition between zones, you park them outside the city and wait for next turn. You do not park them as sitting ducks in enemy airspace and then end turn.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby joosy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:38 pm

Lamech wrote:Is it just me or is the Don being really loose with how he's interpreting the situation in an attempt to make Ceaser look bad? Does he really think anyone would be leave hitting peripheral cities is more important than the croakamancer? Tram doesn't look remotely regal. I do agree with the crap being about to hit the fan. And crap means battlecrap and fan means the Jetstone forces... :twisted:


I believe Don is interpreting the situation to suit his own agenda. Its like when you trip but are able to make it into a skip or an acrobatic tumble and end up on your feet. Rather than admit your initial error, you beam and raise your hands in victory as if this is what you intended all along. His trust in Jillian must remain absolute to his own people given that he has sacrificed a lot from his own kingdom in order to support FAQ.

Also, remember that the whole theme to this battle is Royalty vs Toolism. Don King is only a recent re-convert back to Royalism, as we have learned with Transylvito's beginning production of an heir, so he is trying to make up for lost time. Either Don is not fully aware of the effect his return to the old ways is having on loyalty. Or maybe he is and his sending Caesar into near death is intentional and not just a byproduct of the distraction and lack of resources due to the financing of Faq.

I believe one of the outcomes of this battle will be an uprising in the Transylvitian court. Caesar is still the heir designate so if he was going to make his move it would be when Don King appears weakest and before the new heir pops. I think the most opportune time will be when Don has to eat his words as they all witness, via Bat 3, the downfall of Jetstone.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Lamech » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:40 pm

raphfrk wrote:Btw, assuming that the bombardment option is being deployed.

I find it pretty surprising that nobody else would have thought about it before. Dropping lots of units and accepting a 2/3 rate of attrition is less obvious. Even then, a way to bypass the zone rules off turn, even if there is a penalty should be something that is well known.

Perhaps, units that fire solid projectiles are very rare. However, if there were archers in the airspace, then presumably, they would also be able to hit targets on the ground. Maybe, it only works because acid doesn't need to be moving to do damage.

As has been mentioned, this probably never comes up. The only spell that can do this requires massive resources, and very few people would be stuipid enough to park units sitting in the air space.
I think the most opportune time will be when Don has to eat his words as they all witness, via Bat 3, the downfall of Jetstone.
Yup that would be the perfect time for a revolt.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby BLANDCorporatio » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:41 pm

Welf von Ehrwald wrote:Don't worry, both, apparently, works. http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=268


You beat me to that.

splintermute wrote:Why would it be well known? Outside of the KingWorld spell (and Charlie's foolish decision in Book 1), this particular situation might never have arisen before in the history of Erf


There's more than one way to skin a cat, and usually if something works in one context, it will work in others.

For example, a classic battle. No town below, just a regular hex, and some dogfighting above. For various combinations of air and ground troops, may even be useful.

Lamech wrote:Yup that would be the perfect time for a revolt.


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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby haviel » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:46 pm

AngelOfMercy wrote:I guess we'll never know what that last sentence from Parson's Klog ends with :p


I bet the next Klog states that Parson did that on purpose to confuse Charlie if he reads through his Klogs. Which is funny because the last update confused me until other forum members clarified it, and my name is Charley :D
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby DunkelMentat » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:49 pm

TOTALLY EXCITED FOR THE NEXT PAGE THAT IS ALL.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby joosy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:58 pm

splintermute wrote:
raphfrk wrote:Btw, assuming that the bombardment option is being deployed.

I find it pretty surprising that nobody else would have thought about it before. Dropping lots of units and accepting a 2/3 rate of attrition is less obvious. Even then, a way to bypass the zone rules off turn, even if there is a penalty should be something that is well known.

Why would it be well known? Outside of the KingWorld spell (and Charlie's foolish decision in Book 1), this particular situation might never have arisen before in the history of Erf - if you're going to attack a city, and your units don't have enough move left to transition between zones, you park them outside the city and wait for next turn. You do not park them as sitting ducks in enemy airspace and then end turn.


Also, I don't think anyone has amassed yellow dwagons in such a manner as before. They also probably have never had the option of decryption as a means to replenish your forces either. It could very well have been tried, but only as a last resort and with probably minimal effect and the tale is told now only as a cautionary tale of why not to end turn in enemy territory.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby Decorus » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:59 pm

Pretty Much Parson's ugly plan is to literally drop the entire non decrypted troops onto Tram's army killing or incapacitating most of them and tram's army then Wanda decrypts everything increasing thier forces?
Or does he have something more sinister...
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Re: Book 2 – Page 34

Postby joosy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:09 pm

Decorus wrote:Pretty Much Parson's ugly plan is to literally drop the entire non decrypted troops onto Tram's army killing or incapacitating most of them and tram's army then Wanda decrypts everything increasing thier forces?
Or does he have something more sinister...


Please, its Rob Balder we're talking about here. Of course its more sinister :)

Keep in mind the foreshadowing/chekhov's gun of preserving Jack's power. That is going to come into play as well. I predict that they are going to fall, Wanda will be saved by fate/plot armor, she will decrypt any defeated of her forces then lay waste to Trammenis's coterie and add them to her numbers. Jack will probably maintain the illusion that they are still in the air space or defeated/captured by Trammenis. By the time Slately and Don are through engaging in mutual affirmation of their Royal superiority via Thinkagram and prematurely dividing up the spoils , the worm will have indeed turned.
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