Book 2 – Page 36

[cdrcjsn]

Hi, first post...

I think there is one plan that might fit in this scenario... I am depending on the rule that food can be popped off-turn and that any projectiles across the hex during off-turn would be stuck in mid-air... Parson would have Wanda summon mass amount of food using the vast treasury of GK... They then throw the food at the archers (food fight, basically)... the food would freeze at the hex border.... continue throwing until there is a barrier of food at the hex border that would block any arrow/air attack from Jetstone... That should allow the group to survive until the next turn...

Or better yet, if they're things like roast chickens and salted sourmanders, Wanda can decrypt them, and the 25% that survive the fall kill the ground troops.

Wanda can lead them in a dance fight across the ground/air border (after all, the Archons did it back in GK).

The idea of dancing, zombie roast chicken amuses me for some reason.

[DarcDiscordia]

Ahaha. Oh man, Jack is quickly becoming my favorite character.

[frogspawned]

I have my own food fight theory.

F is next to G on the typical keyboard.

- actually, no... that can't be right. The last panel -has- to be a foreboding cliffhanger!

Love Jack. As always.

[Trotsky]

I have my own food fight theory.

F is next to G on the typical keyboard.

- actually, no... that can't be right. The last panel -has- to be a foreboding cliffhanger!

Love Jack. As always.

I don't see why he would be talking about food Gight. What does Lord Byron's home have to do with anything?

[BLANDCorporatio]

..and clever use of Foghat's Fool for the City. I wonder if Moneymancer's have a spell they intone with "You've the brains, I've got the looks.."

Referencing the Animal Store Lads is cute, but I think Moneymancers are Pink Floyd fans. OTOH, if there's a Mancy involved with going west ...

[DevilDan]

From what we saw of Ansom's attacks on the walls, we know that ground units (off-turn) cannot attack air units no matter how close (hence why they had to send out the air units) but we DID see arrows being used against him.

It's not clear to me that the uncroaked on the walls couldn't attack Ansom; I believe they were too weak and unskilled (considering they were the cheapest and most ineffectual sort of uncroaked) to stop a level-10 warlord armed with the arkenpliers.

[Jamus]

Haven't posted in a while (ever?) but just wanted to give some feedback.

I'm not an artsy person, so the shift in artists for the comic didn't really mean much to me. I mean, it was fine- both before and after- but it wasn't really something I paid much attention to. I'm a wordy fellow, I guess?

This one caught me off guard, then, when I realized how good it was. The old style was.. interesting, but always a little dead to me, I think. Like drawing dolls. That's not bad- it was part of the theme of the comic, I felt. Playthings in a real world, or something. But Xin's page today did the total opposite, and I realize now that it has since she took over. The expressions she draws on the faces of the characters are priceless. The characters feel much, much more real in this rendering.

Bravo.

[pSycHOtic chICkeN]

Interesting, if Parson is involved in the "parley", then he will be known by the other sides of Erfworld. So far, except Charlie no opponents of GK know his existence (or has survived long enough to share it ).

Parson is talked about at a [url]meeting of RCC1[/url]. It reads as if everyone at the table already know who Ansom is talking about. The various warlords would have been in communication with there respective sides. Hamster made an appearance in the magic kingdom and several thinkamancers came to break the triple link. That leaves no boundary that gossip could not travel to. Somehow Wanda found out about the summoning spell in the magic kingdom. Many casters and monarchs may have known that a "perfect warlord" was going to appear before Parson knew that he was going to appear.

[Angband]

I think the most interesting thing about this strip is Parson's use of the word exploit.

That, combined with the title of issue 2 ("It's raining men"), and with the two klogs about off-turn actions and dropping things to the ground due to gravity, and the fact that Wanda being alive is absolutely key, are all clues that we're about to have SOMEthing dropping across the boundary only to get decroaked off-turn to try and salvage this situation.

The "food fight" is where things get cuckoo. Is Parson being metaphorical or literal? Only the next few updates will tell...

[ftl]

I think whatever happens, I'm going to love the contrast between Parson and the rest of Erfworld.

We've seen a few text updates worth of battle plans from various sides. Ford coming up with a quite capable battle plan to try to at least do some damage to Trem's stacks before croaking. Trem putting together a capable battle plan for stomping Ford. Jack coming up with some smart thoughts about how to survive in the airspace.

And now, Parson gets command; and the first thing he does is find an exploit and start a "food fight".

[pSycHOtic chICkeN]

We know that you can spend Schmuckers off turn. What might you be able to buy that you can drop onto your enemies? More Hobgobwins? Rations? Vanity Pets?

No food. Yellow dwagons fight using battle crap and it looks like battle crap appears in the same place that excrement leaves a lizard. Gobwin Knob can feed the dwagons and then produce ammunition limited only by the quantity of schmuckers in the treasury. Gavage ammunition.

One could also speculate on what creates the breath weapons of other dragons. We do not yet know how frequently dwagons can breath fire, shoot lightening, or create gas. We know that units pop with their weapons. We do not know if weapons can be acquired by other means. We have several indications that the number of arrows are limited. Archers might be limited by the number of arrows they popped with while dwagons are limited by the rations they have consumed.

In addition to dwagon droppings and I suppose dropping dwagons the Jetstone archers may suffer from friendly fire. They are shooting up into the fog. As archers fall Wanda can decrypt them and deliver unfriendly fire on the surviving Jetsone archers. The injured heavy units may also get targeted, get decrypted, and then join the slaughter of archers. A free for all food fight is a reasonable image.

[Sygerrik]

We know that you can spend Schmuckers off turn. What might you be able to buy that you can drop onto your enemies? More Hobgobwins? Rations? Vanity Pets?

No food. Yellow dwagons fight using battle crap and it looks like battle crap appears in the same place that excrement leaves a lizard. Gobwin Knob can feed the dwagons and then produce ammunition limited only by the quantity of schmuckers in the treasury. Gavage ammunition.

One could also speculate on what creates the breath weapons of other dragons. We do not yet know how frequently dwagons can breath fire, shoot lightening, or create gas. We know that units pop with their weapons. We do not know if weapons can be acquired by other means. We have several indications that the number of arrows are limited. Archers might be limited by the number of arrows they popped with while dwagons are limited by the rations they have consumed.

In addition to dwagon droppings and I suppose dropping dwagons the Jetstone archers may suffer from friendly fire. They are shooting up into the fog. As archers fall Wanda can decrypt them and deliver unfriendly fire on the surviving Jetsone archers. The injured heavy units may also get targeted, get decrypted, and then join the slaughter of archers. A free for all food fight is a reasonable image.

That's what I said! I think people are too literal here. I would be astonished if Parson's plan involved actual food, dropped or decrypted or otherwise. Food fight is a recognizable metaphor, not a statement of intent.

[Lor]

:lol:

I want panel nr. 5 as a wallpaper at work!!

Norden

Oh yeah.

Even better with a caption: "Come to the crazy side. Cookies have us."

[cdrcjsn]

That's what I said! I think people are too literal here. I would be astonished if Parson's plan involved actual food, dropped or decrypted or otherwise. Food fight is a recognizable metaphor, not a statement of intent.

Actually, I think it makes perfect sense.

Sourmanders can be food.
Wanda can decrypt Sourmanders.
Food can be delivered off-turn.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me as an exploit and we've seen hints of it coming in almost every single update for the past dozen updates.

[Krennson]

does anyone actually have the reference for food being able to appear off turn? I checked parson's klog on of-turn actions, and all I saw was

"planning, communications, some forms of scouting, take offs and landings of flyers (within a hex or city you control), are all possible off turn. you can lay some traps. you can restack all you want."

I didn't see anything in there about food. can someone provide a link please?

[gazes_also]

Had a thought on food fight, possibly an attrition strategy, as in starve them out. If Parson doesn't reject the terms and can lock JS into waiting for an answer, how long could the turn continue before JS has to use it's provision reserves? We saw Bogroll resort to reserve rations during the GK siege. How long before JS has to end turn because they have no food rather than no attack left?

The other possibility that occurs to me - and I still am not convinced that Wanda can conventionally cast across zones, but here goes - is if they can attack one group of archer stacks, decrypts them and has them shoot at other archer stacks, creating confusion and archers shooting wildly at each other, snowballing the decryption - food fight

Maybe he can exploit the parley to get Wanda into another zone - get her permission to land in the courtyard so she can cast on troops there if they can be hit by dropped objects. The problem with that is that it isolates her from the majority of her force, a huge risk.

[davesnothere]

I think the most interesting thing about this strip is Parson's use of the word exploit.

That, combined with the title of issue 2 ("It's raining men"), and with the two klogs about off-turn actions and dropping things to the ground due to gravity, and the fact that Wanda being alive is absolutely key, are all clues that we're about to have SOMEthing dropping across the boundary only to get decroaked off-turn to try and salvage this situation.

RIght, I don't think this involves literal food. In fact, it's currently Jetstone's turn and Parson will want this decisively resolved before another wild card (like Charlie's next turn) can come into play.

A couple of times Parson has asked about off-turn possiblities. I woudn't be suprised if he also tries something over night.
If he can get units in the same zone.

[the_tick_rules]

I believe rations are a per turn affair, so once you get what you need you're not hungry, if they truly hunger by our definition of it, for as long as your turn remains. I wonder what food fight does mean though? Perhaps the kings musing about the trouble of finanace/rations are a precursor to... something. Like destory their larder or whatever? That is if the metaphor is interpeted right.

[DevilDan]

The essence of a food fight is widespread chaos and makeshift projectiles. I'm pretty sure that's also a safe bet for this battle.

About the decor of the war room: I would love a vinyl wall sticker of that golden dwagon.

[Killer Angel]

Also, I bet the "food fight" will involve dwagons being dropped en masse.

Ah, I'm happy I'm not the only one thinking such a thing...