Book 2 – Page 42

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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby Ansan Gotti » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:00 pm

The thing about exploits is that they can often only be used once. Still... what a once it will be (I hope)!
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby DyneBlack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:16 pm

MonteCristo wrote:I'm actually having more fears for Sizemore than Parson...
Namely, even if things work out perfectly, i expect the magic kingdom will be really pissed off about such abuse of the portals... i think they even decide to BAN all GK units from the magic Kingdom all together. I feel like him watching Janice walk off and not waiting for her, may have been the last time he sees her. Frankly i felt like the last Text update was just screaming "Enjoy it while you can Sizemore, cause this is the last time you will be able to"

Another possibility would be Sizemore croaking and being decrypted and thus drastically changing how people treat him in the magic kingdom to the point it becomes even more uncomfortable than it was before... might be a good way for Janice to see first hand what wanda is doing as she speaks to sizemore and he's all gushing about Wanda and being supportive of HER war effort to spread toolism...


I was thinking about this also. The MK wasn't very happy when Parson entered before and now Parson wants Sizemore to lead him through. This could lead to serious resentment from Sizemore if of course he lives through this fight.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby BLANDCorporatio » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:17 pm

Let me just say a heartfelt yay, because boop indeed is getting real.

Now, MK teleporting to the battlefield has been speculated on, and while the idea didn't appeal to me, kudos to the originators.

And also credit where it's due, to the Erfworld creators, who seem intent to prove me wrong. To really do so however, pretty please with sugar on top, can we see Parson getting face to face with Slately and Co in two updates maximum?
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby Kizmet » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:19 pm

An assault force with parson, maggie, sizemore and the archons (archons are all casters right?). If they can get through the portal and kill the king... the entire garrison goes poof (since there is no heir)... no more threat to Wanda and the GK forces.

Other Random Speculation/Foreshadow:
- If portals exist... why can't one connect to another? Stargate style.
- Ace Hardware is going to wound Parson.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby BLANDCorporatio » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:20 pm

DyneBlack wrote:
MonteCristo wrote:I'm actually having more fears for Sizemore than Parson...{snip}


I was thinking about this also. The MK wasn't very happy when Parson entered before and now Parson wants Sizemore to lead him through. This could lead to serious resentment from Sizemore if of course he lives through this fight.


So what says you, time to start the (Im)Mortality Watch?

Who will the casualties be? Much to joosy's joy, Sylvia is such a likely victim of Fate that putting her name on any list is cheating. And so's Slately (Trem is heir; move over now you old faht nobody liked you anyway except me). But who's next? Sizemore? Maggie?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby joosy » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:24 pm

Its not even my birthday and I get a art update! and here I was looking forward to reading text and using my imagination this week. :)

Note: Rob's update - we may get two text updates in a row as a result. I am already planning on eating more brain food to prepare.

While the usage of the Magic Kingdom's portals as a pass through has been speculated, it was always deemed unwise due to the guard posted on GK's portal after Parson went through.

I also doubt that anyone has been so brash as to use the MK portals to invade someone else's kingdoms. I'm sure it has been thought of, but it isn't worth wasting a caster on.


Speculation: I guess that Parson is going to use Sizemore and Maggie to disguise him as a Golem (assuming they can come through the portal) or to create a diversion/distraction so he can get sneak through.

Thought: When new sides appear, a new portal is created. However, FAQ's existence was kept secret (or perhaps just its location) Is there some unspoken conspiracy amongst all casters of the sanctity of the knowledge and use of the MK's portals? If so, I think Parson is going to break that as well.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby DyneBlack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:30 pm

BLANDCorporatio wrote:
DyneBlack wrote:
MonteCristo wrote:I'm actually having more fears for Sizemore than Parson...{snip}


I was thinking about this also. The MK wasn't very happy when Parson entered before and now Parson wants Sizemore to lead him through. This could lead to serious resentment from Sizemore if of course he lives through this fight.


So what says you, time to start the (Im)Mortality Watch?

Who will the casualties be? Much to joosy's joy, Sylvia is such a likely victim of Fate that putting her name on any list is cheating. And so's Slately (Trem is heir; move over now you old faht nobody liked you anyway except me). But who's next? Sizemore? Maggie?


I don't want to make any predictions of deaths in the future. Based on Sizemore's reactions to Parson in the past he will continue to obey him, of course, but resent him if he has to get blood on his own hands. I don't see this trend changing. I just hope that Parson doesn't lose one of his best friends/allies in Erfworld due to pushing Sizemore too much.

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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby joosy » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:31 pm

BLANDCorporation wrote:Who will the casualties be? Much to joosy's joy, Sylvia is such a likely victim of Fate that putting her name on any list is cheating. And so's Slately (Trem is heir; move over now you old faht nobody liked you anyway except me). But who's next? Sizemore? Maggie?


Honestly? I like Sylvia. I disliked Red. Rather, I disliked everyone else's inital hare brained speculation surrounding her and only championed her demise to play the role of the foil or the fly in the ointment or sand in the vaseline if you will. Rob's response was to reclaim her, rename her, and give her a bigger role in events. That made her more palatable to me.

Not that I won't smile when she once again burns bright for one last time :)
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby SurvivorX » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:45 pm

0_o holy boop, Parson's gonna break EVERYTHING.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby Lamech » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:08 pm

Question: Who do we think Jetstone will blame if a corspe appears? Who do we think Jetstone will blame if they see Parson attacking their troops? 'Cause I'm thinking that they "know" the GK forces are trapped out of the garrison, and that Haggar wants to back stab them and has free reign of the city. So I'm thinking they'll blame the obvious suspect instead of considering GK suddenly developed the ablity to port off turn, AND hasn't used it yet.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby the_tick_rules » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:15 pm

Good idea Parson, the promoting. The going out to fight, down right stupid.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby shadowdemon_lord » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:18 pm

Golem hit squad crafted from the walls of Spacerock anyone? We don't really know the limits of what Sizemore can and cannot turn into golems. If he's capable of finding something (maybe some metal somewhere in the castle, or earth on the courtyard), into golems after he enters Spacerock this little idea of parsons could get very deadly. With all the forces outside of the garrison, and Maggie, Sizemore, and Parson (plus presumably some fresh golems) in the garrison (which is where they will teleport to), Spacerock might be captured before anyone knows what hit them.

Presumably Parson thought of some insane exploit for Wanda et al to follow and run one hell of a distraction outside, drawing everything Jetstone has into the courtyard/airspace of Jetstone. This might leave the garrison so lightly defended that Parson et al will be able to clear it, which would result in every unit in Jetstone being put into chains immediately as it happened. Presumably Slately will retreat to the relative safety of the tower once it starts looking like Wanda actually has a shot at winning this. Alternatively, Parson, Maggie, Sizemore, and the golems might end up facing off against Slately and his honor guard, in a surprise attack. Either way, it looks like Parson has planned an elaborate fake for this entire encounter, the presumed hacking of the Thinkagrams by Charlie is merely going to serve as an even greater distraction for Jetstone now, and leave them even more vulnerable to counter attack by Parson. This is why I like this comic, no matter how good and how powerful Charlie is with all his omniscient powers and capabilites, Parsons still smarter.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby effataigus » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:19 pm

Hooray updates!

Hmm, now that Parson, Maggie, and Sizemore seem to be heading to ground zero... any speculation on what a linked dirtamancer-thinkamancer-hippiemancer could cast?

Sacred soil... no combat possible in a hex? Heh... no way this one is getting cast if only because it would make all of book 2 to date a wash + an Ansom-for-Ossomer trade.

I'm puzzled by "you know how." I would have thought that there are enough unknowns (to Parson if not to Maggie) regarding portal hopping that he would at least ask her if it were possible first. And yes, I realize that we don't have 100% assurances that they're going in by portal yet, but it seems at least as implied as Charlie's hack-a-gramming. My guess is that Rob is implying that this discussion happened off screen before so that we don't have to watch it happen on screen now.

Of course, if Sizemore can do to Slately's tower what he did to his own... :shock: ... who needs a link.

Also looking forward to Stanley coming back with his sandwich... "Hello? Guys? Guys?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby Elhoim » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:29 pm

Crisis21 wrote:What makes you think there is a missing text update?


Eh... Rob's words in the news?

http://www.erfworld.com/2010/09/out-of-order-updates/
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby BCCroaker » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:34 pm

On Parson making himself a field unit -presumably the cost just disappeared out of the GK treasury as he said it. But what happened to him? All he said was that the stairs got easier; did he get lighter, was one stat raised or all of them or does he get a level for being a field warlord?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby zilfallon » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:36 pm

Eff, i think you meant Stanley instead of Slately in your last line.
And yeah, it'd be pretty funny. Can't imagine his reaction :D But even he can guess it is "natural" that casters go missing off-turn when Parson is chief warlord.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby effataigus » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:39 pm

I sure did! *edited*

Thanks!
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby Crisis21 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:50 pm

BCCroaker wrote:On Parson making himself a field unit -presumably the cost just disappeared out of the GK treasury as he said it. But what happened to him? All he said was that the stairs got easier; did he get lighter, was one stat raised or all of them or does he get a level for being a field warlord?


If nothing else, his move went up (as in it is now higher than zero).

My random speculation of the day: When Parson gets to the tower armory for the stuff he's having the Twoll collect for him, he discovers that one of the items is the Sword of Ruthlessness which has been inexplicably remade. :mrgreen:

Other speculation: Parson said a food fight. We know from a previous update that Jetstone's rations have not yet popped. Parson's going to have Wanda decrypt Jetstone's rations! :mrgreen:
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby MarbitChow » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:55 pm

Kizmet wrote:An assault force with parson, maggie, sizemore and the archons (archons are all casters right?). If they can get through the portal and kill the king... the entire garrison goes poof (since there is no heir)... no more threat to Wanda and the GK forces.

Only the field units poof. The units in the city would freeze in time until an enemy enters the hex.
Since there's already an enemy in the hex, it's likely that they'd be able to continue "defending" (i.e. attacking Wanda & Co.).
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Re: Book 2 – Page 42

Postby gameboy1234 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:58 pm

DyneBlack wrote:Not to mention if he takes Sizemore with him Sizemore may be able to bring along some of his golems.

Edit: Or at least make then after he gets there.

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You beat me to it (surprise update!). I bet there's a special move rule about casters taking summoned or crafted items with them through a portal. Remember the discussions over the summer about Maggie's new raiment? She got it from a dollmancer in the Magic Kingdom. Just the same way (same rule) I bet Sizemore is going to move some golems out of the MK and into JK's portal room.

It'll make for a small invasion force, and still risky for Parson. Sizemore won't have as much juice to heal them (I think, if he has to summon in the MK for it to work), but it'll be better than Sizemore and Parson walking into the portal room alone. I bet their goal is not so much to make an open stand but to surprise attack and hit a few choice resources clandestinely. It won't be a full assault but a special forces ninja raid. Then they'll link up with regular GK forces after some of those regular forces get inside the tower (it's raining men...).


Regarding Parson actually crossing MK: A foolmancy scroll cast by Maggie seems more likely than using Sizemore to "force" his way through. I'd give equal chances to Janis intervening and convincing the other casters to let them through. Sizemore and Parson both may get some predictions out of a meeting with Janis and her Predictamancer.
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