Whispri wrote:He chose to blind himself, no one made him do it. Despite that, he could see well enough to tell that non-yellow Dwagons were falling and yet... As for what else he could have done, his Father's "croak everything" plan still sounds like a fine one, it was probably their best chance of hitting Wanda.
And likely still would have failed....Parson positioned Wanda so she was screened. JS were messed up once Parson got his plan across to Jack and Wanda...after that, there was very little JS could do to stop it. Parson gambled...Wanda could very well have died in the fall....but he seems to have stacked the odds as much in his favour as he could. JSs trouble was that it could easily win the battle....but may still have lost the resulting war. JS held out for the traditional parley and for Tram and his forces to return. Tram wanted a parley for sound reasons as well. But once Parson got involved, even killing off the GK force wouldn't have helped....only Wanda needed to survive. JS shooting them down would have created a little bit more chaos and perhaps prompted Parson to harvest the mounts sooner to provide more cover for Wanda but the end result would be the same...Wanda on the ground with the pliers and a whole heap of dead bodies.
By the time he realised what was happening Wanda and company had hit the ground unmolested.
In other words, it took him a few seconds to realise Parsons plan to bypass a physical law. Fast. And his response is probably the best he can do given everything else. Trams problem is that there wasn't anything he could do to stop that. Wanda was screened enough that she likely would get down somehow. The big question was would she survive.
On the subject of the Atrium evacuation, those archers weren't too effective against Wanda at the bridge. Sylvia was actually batting arrows out of the sky. On top of that, it looks to me like those Dwagons are croaking troops who are trying to run away, granting them easy pickings, while he's leaving Wanda and company time to organise (and get to their feet) before they hit the garrison's defenders. Are the arrow hails really worth it?
Tram has enough archers to croak the entire/most GK force. That was GKs problem. Tram seems to be having them saturate the atrium...he's getting rid of survivors and hes continuing the evacuation to deny GK more dead bodies to decrypt. If he is able to keep up the arrow storm, he may very well be able to kill off a lot of decrypted as Wanda raises them and he may even get Wanda.
As for time to organise....if they stay, they're in danger from friendly fire. That provides more bodies for Wanda. As it is, the JS troops are fighting...or did you miss the decapitated dwagon?
Tremannis's mistakes are legion. If they lose this battle, they lose everything. He's Chief Warlord and he's allowing Parson's battle plan to survive contact with the enemy. Unforgivable.
And there was nothing he could do to stop it. His best option was to continue with the traditional parley. But prevent GK getting to the ground? Parsons plan involved killing his own army. He needed ONLY Wanda to survive.
What do you expect him to do to stop things? He needs to kill Wanda...but Parson had her put up screening stacks. And before that he had Jack put up baffles. So killing her wouldn't be quick or easy...and Parson would just enact his plan sooner and ignore the elements that added extra confusion.
JSs mistake was not to kill GK while Wanda was an easy target. That would still have left it in a poor position.
Trams mistake was to consider the impossible impossible....while not considering that the supply rules provided a workaround. Even then, had he attacked, he'd still be left in what he sees as an unenviable situation.
Then there's the fact that Tremannis has just wasted his Tower's spells, the only weapon at his disposal that can strike anywhere in the City, on non-Wanda units.
You would prefer that he use up his casters juice on non-critical targets? He needed to get rid of the yellows. He chose a method that ddn't waste casters juice and didn't use up arrows. As for waste....we don't know enough to state this was the best option, but its very likely the case the twoer has more spells and juice available to it....it didn't strop casting because it ran out, he ordered it stopped.
Throw in some Foolamancy (using Scrolls if necessary) and Wanda and company could be moving out of range laughing for all he knows.
Not a chance. GKs problem is that they couldn't win, they couldn't attack, they were sitting ducks, they couldn't move or escape. Foolamancy wouldn't help. Shockamancy wouldn't help. A suitable Trimancer link would help but none were in the hex.
And as for defying Erfworld physics, Parson can enter the Magic Kingdom. Warlords aren't supposed to be able to do that.
He's also been told Parson is some kind of Mathamancer...a caster. Casters CAN enter the MK.
If you confine yourself to thoughts of magic, think of scrolls. Spells that summon acid rain clouds, emulate the effects of a yellow Dwagon's attack or just cause rocks to materialise above her enemies heads could really allow Wanda to do serious damage. Think of buff spells, Wanda's already been through one quadrupled arrow storm today without taking a scratch, add in a few protection scrolls and what could touch her now the Tower's drained of spells?
600 archers firing at a cloud of targets that can't escape and 3 casters boosted by the towers spell bonus.
Think of Weirdomancy scrolls saying "Actually, boop you" to Erfworld's rules with regards to firing across Zones. Think of a sufficient quantity of Healing scrolls. Tremannis should be prepared for such trouble. He is not.
And you think this because...what? He refuses to shoot down his hostages (aka weakening his bargianbing position)? With all the scrolls in the world, what makes you think that his force of archers, made safe behind zone boundaries and off turn limitations, can't wipe out most, if not all, of GKs force? Regardless of what they do? The Erfworlders seem to think that is the case.
Tremmanis has had all the time in the World to prepare for battle. He failed to do so.
By removing units vulnerable to attack and stationing his archers in readiness for battle. What more would you have him do?
This is a Capital fight, Jetstone is dying as Tremannis flounders. They lose here? It's over, even if the King escapes he'd have no money and no army.
Even if they win they are in trouble. Thats a big reason Tram wants to parley.
Why would Gobwin Knob have to parley? All they have to do is find a way of keeping Wanda alive.
They don't have one beyond dumb luck. GK doesn't have to parley...in which case JS wipes out their strike force. GK doesn't have to agree...in which case JS wipes out their Strike force. In both cases, GK gets nothing, Wanda dies and JS gets the pliers. If GK does agree, it gets the return of a powerful strike force, several experienced warlords and a Master Foolamancer in addition to a secure border.
Thats a potentially powerful incentive.
Lord Hamster can learn everything Ossomer knows about Spacerock's defences just by asking. He has full knowledge of his own sides capabilities, which is of course denied to Jetstone. He has Mathmancy backing him up. He can talk to Ossomer and ask how best to goad his brother into reaction 'x'. And Tremannis knows all this! Yet he didn't pause to think. Didn't think enough to show concern.
And it is NOT GKs turn. GK cannot attack. It cannot move. It cannot fight. It cannot escape. Its options are limited to tossing off a few S-Bombs and trying to survive the onrushing arrow storm. It doesn't matter what Hamster knows or can find out. He can't make use of that information. Because its not his turn.
Tremannis worst mistake was quietly accepting promotion to a position that is simply beyond him.
He's doing quite well so far. Hes reacting quickly, he's grasped Parson plan and hes doing what needs to be done to counter it....evacuate the atrium to give his archers a clear line of fire and deny Wanda more bodies and have his troops try to remove Wanda. Is there a better plan? He could have had all the troops remain to search for Wanda...but that would remove his archers from that battle and give Wanda more troops if they didn't get her...GK does have a Foolamancer.