Tiger wrote:oslecamo2 wrote:They would have one now. Haggar is dead and they lost a good chunk of infantry while Jetstone barely took losses, so they aren't really in position to threaten Slatley anymore.
Not really. Ossomer mentioned when we first met him that he was bluffing when he bullied them into alliance in the first place, and Tramennis recently mentioned that even without the 'pliers, Gobwin Knob could still crush the coalition. Given that Sammy just got killed fighting Jetstone's war, it wouldn't surprise me if King Dickie decided that attacking Jetstone (particularly as part of a Haggar-Gobwin Knob alliance) was in his kingdom's interests.
I'm kinda tired of that argument. Trems claiming that GK would still crush them was a bluff so he could try to talk with fascinating Hamster. Even king Slatley can see that.
Tiger wrote:Kinda irrelevant since GK will finish Jetstone now, but still, Charlie's plan did weaken Haggar considerably while softening up GK's forces at the cost of a single archon. Turning your enemies against each other is a sign of a good manipulator.
True, but at the cost of his veil of neutrality, and as you alluded to, it didn't work. His secret's out and he has nothing to show for it. Which is perfectly understandable - no one wins every time - but just goes to prove my point.
What matters it's who wins last, as Hamster demonstrated in book 1. Charlie had the upper hand for a moment, Hamster's volcano nuke trumped it.
Tiger wrote:He told Jillian that she needed to go back despite, as pointed out by her CWL, that Trems should have more than enough firepower to wipe them all out. Charlie knows that Hamster can pull something out, despite his desesperate-looking situation. And the only way he could know that it's because he intercepted Maggie's message, since it's a completely crazy tactic not anyone else in Erfworld would remember.
Plus he was unreachable while Maggie relayed the orders, strongly sugesting he was focused intercepting her and thus unable to send his usual thinkgrams.
Precisely, circumstantial evidence, though admittedly coincidences are significantly less likely in a fictional narrative.
And I have a theory on how Charlie knows what Parson's about to do. He doesn't. I could only come up with two explanations for why he wouldn't just tell Jillian and Tramennis what Parson's about to do. One is that he wants GK to win, because he's got some master plan that doesn't make sense to me going on. Obviously, given what I'm arguing here, I'm disinclined to accept that explanation. The other is that he's bluffing. He doesn't have any idea what Parson's about to do, he just figures that he's brilliant enough to pull something out of his sleeve and wants everyone to play it safe.
Third explanation: telling Jetstone Hamster's actual battle plan would reveal his ability to listen to other people's thinkgrams. Charlie already gave away his neutrality. He really doesn't want to reveal yet more of his secrets.
Tiger wrote:Admittedly, you'd think he'd have tried a little harder to convince Jillian to turn back if that were the case.
Jillian proved time and time again to be an unreliable ally at best. She was willing to just team up with Wanda and burn down Jetstone, almost attacked Transylvito, and then ditched the whole battle plan in order to capture her boy-toy and leave the place. Not worth the time arguing for really.
On the other hand, Charlie loves "take it or leave it" deals. Back in Book 1 when Ansom was being swarmed by uncroacked and complained about Charlie's terms, he simply replied that by all means, Ansom could refuse and let himself be killed.
So in this situation he probably tought he could "break" Jillian by threatening to abandon her, and expected her to come back crying for mercy. Except again, this is "salad forks make great eye poppers!" Jillian, so she really doesn't care that whitout Charlie's support she can't afford her mancer and her own giant army may rebell against her while she's out. And Charlie can't go back at her whitout showing weakness and desesperation.