atalex wrote:Then, I read 25 straight pages of comments suggesting that Tram was "holding the idiot ball" (complete with hyperlinks to the relevant TV Tropes page) because he failed to anticipate that Parson would come up with something completely unforeseen that would instantly take GK from "certain doom" to "probably going to win," and accordingly he wasted an entire 60 seconds bantering with his recently Decrypted brother when he should have been frantically thinkagramming Parson to beg him for an alliance. Consequently, he must be viewed as an abject failure as both diplomat and chief warlord.
As far as I'm aware, the above sentiments are at the very most
, marginal among those who contributed in the discussion.
atalex wrote:If people are going to say Trammenis such an idiot that it reflects bad writing on the part of the author...
I dont recall seeing anyone say that. I've seen one other poster refer to it as a plot-device which was out-of-character, but I dont think that equates to what you are saying here. If someone actually did
post that it was "bad writing", again I'll point out that view can only be held by very, very few. They way you are phrasing this post makes it seem like your tarring everyone who doesn't agree with you with the same brush. Please respect that everyone here has a unique angle, and although they can often be dived roughly into two schools of thought, you should be careful how you address, or refer to, groups of posters.
In any case, and I direct this to anyone who feels tempted to take this issue up again: This topic has been discussed in previous threads, and left there. If we revive this issue again it will result in yet more repetition of previous statements, and I think the degree to which the issue has already been discussed shows us that those who are inclined to change their minds one way or the other have already done so, and those who have not, will not.
If anyone does
think there's still meaningful discussion to be had on this point, I suggest we move it to Everything Else Erfword. Personally I would much rather explore newer territory, now that the comic has moved on a few pages.
In closing (I sincerely hope)
So Bob thinks Tram's an idiot, Larry thinks he's a genius, Sam thinks he's made a few mistakes and Sally thinks he's doing okay... thats fine with me, and I hope its fine with everyone else.
is more like it:
Allsardane wrote:I realize it would take a miracle for Trem to realize this (and I have already stated it before), but I still offer my previous action as a viable means of at least balancing the odds- Ending the turn.
This works, but requires one adjustment: JS must join a Chalescomm-led alliance. They end their turn, and then (since all sides in an alliance share the sequence of the leader) they start their turn, performing cleansing.
I agree that it would totally change the layout of the battle, but I think the biggest problem is getting Charlie to effectively give up a turn. Whats more you only have a few seconds to state your case, because it wont take Wanda very long to raise a few dwagons, and when she does, she'll be applying the decrypted bonus to them, so they'll be even stronger than before.
And as a general rule, allowing Parson to have his turn can be assumed to be a bad thing. If this is what he can do with zero options, what can he do when its actually his turn? But still I'm interested to play with the theory - its a good one.
So lets assume that Charlie allied and Ended turn - its now GK's turn, and all the incapacitated/croaked units have depopped..
If say, Archers+Cubins+Towerdefenses > GK Archons
and Cloth Golems+Ace+The Copywright+The Healomancer > Wanda + Jack + Decrypted Jetstone forces + Remaining GK riders + Surviving Dwagon + The Decrypted Red
It could work, but WWPD?
No, no. It hit him in the brain because it killed him. - Dante