ParsonIsOP wrote:Not everything can be judged by a person's appearance. So what else can you call it but superstition? It's like phrenology. Yes, your physical appearance may somewhat reflect your mental character. But it's not really a reliable way of determining psychology.
Yeah, I'll agree here. The author has left us in a pickle... What to attribute to the (potentially misguided) concept of "natural signamancy", and what to attribute to what on Stupidworld would be a very natural cause/effect, sit on a throne all day and manage your kingdom, and you can expect to go all soft and fat.
All we have are clues, and not terribly indicative clues. Slately not only got fat and pale, but he also shrank. That doesn't often happen on Stupidworld, until very advanced age at least. There is also the potential for a "Slately's signamancy caused him to be ugly, not because he wasn't dashing and brave, but because he harbored prejudice" Aesop.
MarbitChow wrote:My speculation:
Tram is certainly demonstrating effeminate qualities. Because of this, I think *we* are reading 'homophobia' into Slately's reactions.
Tram excels at brokering peace agreements, treaties, etc. His stature does not scream "warrior" like Oss does.
Slately thought (erroneously) that because Tram preferred peace, he wouldn't have the stomach for war.
Except that this isn't quite correct. Slately sent Tram out to win or die, and didn't care either way. Perhaps an early indication of his prejudice. But Tram did neither. Instead he cornered the enemy and forced them into an alliance which included tribute. (And damn the wiki for referencing the event without referencing the strip in which it was detailed. Bad wiki contributors, bad!) This is not the description of a man who loves peace at the expense of other considerations. Had Tram not "cornered the enemy" there would have been no peace, so it appears as though Tram enforced a peace through superior firepower. Not the tactics his brothers might have taken, but as Slately mused, Tram had probably earned Jetstone more shmuckers than any other prince. This is not just a skill at brokering peace agreements, it seems to be the qualifications for a true statesman. (now, if he only weren't being such an idiot lately...
MarbitChow wrote:It's like Thomas Jefferson having a black mistress. Having sex with her is one thing. Publicly putting her forward as a socially and legally recognized mate? Unthinkable.
Yeah, but let's hope that the natural signamancy for racism would be handled just like I'm hoping the natural signamancy for homophobia might be being handled: You get ugly, bitch, and this is due to your outer self reflecting your inner "worth."
ParsonIsOP wrote:However, there is no evidence that it ever cost Slately money to pop Ace.
By the by, the burden of proof is on you. Not me. I haven't made a claim to knowledge. You have. Stop wasting my time covering basic etiquette for things you should already know.
There is evidence, if one assumes that popping a unit costs shmuckers. Ace popped in Dhrystone, in place of a warlord.
The damn wiki states:
erfwiki wrote:Caster Creation
Casters are created in the same way as warlords; when a Side pops a warlord, there is a chance it will get a caster instead. The Side also does not get to choose the type of caster it receives.
This indicates that when a side queues up a Warlord, they might get a caster. Other references support this, such as Jillian musing about how she never got an early caster while popping warlords.
BTW: There is no burden of proof. You can't assert something and claim that it is fact unless it can be disproved. There is no way to prove a negative. Pickles taste like roast beef! Prove me wrong... No matter how many references you have which assert that pickles do not taste like roast beef, there is no way to prove that the next
pickle won't taste like roast beef.
Nobody else has mentioned this: a bundle of sticks of dynamite
Um, yes. I did.
name lips wrote:And Trem will have something no side, except perhaps Charlie's, has ever had. Think about this for a second.
Ansom wasn't smart? He was out-thought by our Protagonist, and also goaded into some behavior that wasn't necessarily to his best advantage (should have attacked in a turn, and didn't. Then, when schooled by Parson, shouldn't attack the next turn, and did due to the harsh lessons of the prior turn) but that doesn't make him stupid.
atalex wrote:Slately takes the grenade, Ace pulls the pin, and they both put their hands over it and over each other's hands and wait for the explosion. Just like Vasquez and Gorman at the end of Aliens -- two enemies bravely facing death together.
Ace: You always were an asshole, Slately!
Dr Pepper wrote:He probably has a gauntlet that gives its wearer a Kung Fu Grip.
And then she pulled out my mushroom tip.
But I see Oberon
already replied to this, with uncharacteristic restraint even
That's because, while I might be an asshole, I'm not a complete
DoctorJest wrote:Consider this: If alternative sexuality is such a big deal in Erfworld, then why does the obviously and ambivalently bisexual Jillian not raise anyone's eyebrow at all? If anything, the lack of reaction by any characters about the gender makeup of Jillian's complicated love life establishes pretty solidly, very early on, that those sorts of things don't matter.
I would tend to agree. It's only that this last text update seems to have insinuated a different sort of values than those which have been expressed previously in the strip.
justamessenger wrote:Erfworld is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Prejudices against race, gender, and sexual orientation have not appeared in Erf, from the comic, and the only religious prejudice seems to be Royals v. Toolists thus far.
Prior to this conflict was the "good" vs. "evil" prejudice. GK units were called "beast" (twolls) and "demoness" (croakamancers) by the RCC forces. And we have the natural allies who have limitations on who they can ally with based upon the unit types those Sides can pop. Let there be no doubt, Erfworld has indeed shown that prejudice is alive and well within the setting.
Urf wrote:We should be spending our juice thinking of a way to get a Green Lantern force field around our merry cast.
Good thing that grenades are green, and not yellow...