Oberon wrote: Infidel wrote:
fjolnir wrote:Remember, she predicted the fall of FAQ, meaning she knows that an event will happen without the specific details of it.
Faq will fall is like saying. You will die. Eventually every empire, every kingdom falls. So this is back to predictable predictions.
How about this for predictamancer discrepancy:
Marie is able to tell Jack which of the three FAQ cities he needs to veil, with 100% accuracy. This means that she predicts that TV units are going to be able to view the city, and by logical extension this means that she sees approaching units.
And yet she didn't see Stanley approaching, or the city would have been veiled when he arrived. So Marie can accurately predict the flight path of a bat when it is randomly scouting, but can't predict 50 dwagons flying straight for the city. It makes no sense.
It depends on how you look at it. The way you phrased it above, yeah that makes no sense, but to me that sounds more like Lookamancy than Predictamancy.
Its funny, because the two are so similar, but the way I imagine them, they are complete opposites. You say Marie can see approaching units, but I think of it more as approaching events
For example, I shamelessly speculate that:
A small number of units on a scouting mission is harder for a Lookamancer to find than a swarm of Dwagons. Inversely, a small, reasonably common event is easier for a Predictamancer to foresee than the culmination of a complex set of unusual circumstances.
So for a small event, I imagine:
Predictamancer: "I predict that a scouting party will be within range of Otoh next turn" (Useful intel - you know where to put Jack)
Lookamancer: "I very luckily became aware of 4 bats and a goyle within 5 hexes of Otoh, but where they go from there is anyone's guess." (Better than nothing, but doesn't tell you where to put your Foolamancer)
versus a large event, which might be more like:
Predictamancer: "I.. uhh.. am pretty
sure that Faq is gonna fall.. one day.. yeah, but there's just too many variables for me to get a fix on the particulars." (Laaaame)
Lookamancer: "Omfg, there's a buttload of dwagons and an arkentool within 20 hexes!" (Time to hire extra Foolamancers and cover all three of your asses at once)
Lamech wrote:Or you could predict say... if a gems will be found in a mountain hex. Or if a pre-set scouting path will encounter enemy units or tamable dwagons.
See again that sounds more like Lookamancy to me- I cant imagine a Predictamancer foreseeing the location of a mine, but I can imagine them saying "I foresee you running a successful mining operation in the surrounding hexes."
I mean, if you asked your Predictamancer "Will this mountain provide many gems?" The answer could always be no. Because if your Predictamancer told you it wouldn't, then you wouldn't mine there, and thus the prediction is correct, regardless of the fact that the mountain might be the wealthiest gem deposit on the map.
But really, UGH. Prophecy in fiction is almost always flawed. I'm going to put it in the basket of "accept without question", along with Erfworlds concept of Time and Free Will.
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