querzis wrote:vrellum wrote:I'll be happy if Ossamer turns. I just don't like Paron's side. Parson and even Stanley are OK, but Wanda and her pliers strike me as evil. It'd be great imo if she was the bbeg, but I don't see how that could happen and the story resolved with world peace.
I'll second that as my first post on these forums. I mean seriously, the only ones I like on Stanley side are Jack (hes just awesome) and Stanley (sure hes a tiny bastard but hes a really fun tiny bastard). I dont really care about Parson, I really hate Wanda and I kinda dislike everyone else. But on Jetstone side? I like everyone (note that I'm still including poor Ossomer on Jetstone side). I'm also liking Don even more every time we see him. I mean seriously, for me it was already hard to sympathize with Gobwin Knob in the first book back when this was still hosted on giantitp. But now that Wanda seems decided to be as much as a complete monster as possible, its just impossible for me to take Parson seriously as a 'hero' if he help her. Come on Parson, sure you would probably have gotten disbanded by Stanley afterwards but you should still have let Wanda die instead of saving her.
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Violets are blue.
:-) wrote:I see what could happen next: The dittomancer multiplies the jetpack, granting Jetstone a new airforce wich kills the archons...
goodmorning wrote:Now that update is actually worth the delaying of the action for. Decrypted units can rebel. They have a loyalty stat. True, being re-popped probably adds a massive bonus to loyalty, but the stat remains, and Ossomer's is quite low right now.
Zeku wrote:Replying to both the post and the comments here, the comic is well known by now, for not choosing sides. The "good" side tends to make a lot of (moral) sense, but is impractical and often stupid. The "evil" side is pretty sinister, but makes good decisions, and seems to be sparing people's lives through the pliers, rather than destroying them. Charlie is still not proven to be helpful or destructive. Compare this to HBO's latest softcore telenovella, GoT, where the bad guys and good guys are strongly established by the end of episode 1.
Roketter wrote:The turnamancer couldn't turn Ansom, but that only means that either the decrypted are unable to voluntarily switch sides or they are imunne to mind-affecting spells.
MarbitChow wrote:Having read the books that GoT is based on, I'm simply going to state that you have chosen a really bad example to demonstrate the point you're trying to prove.
Roketter wrote:One question i'm not sure's been asked before... can decrypted be disbanded ?
It seems they have their own toughts, ideas and are to all matters alive except when they get dusted just like decrypted. They are very different from decroaked in that they retain their own minds to some extent while geting just a major swap on loyalties and beliefs.
However they don't seem more controlled than any of than the rest of erfworld's units via natural thinkamancy. Ossomer's been getting closer and closer to questioning Wanda with each passing moment and we don't see any magical bang from the pliers to restore his loyalty back to 100%. The turnamancer couldn't turn Ansom, but that only means that either the decrypted are unable to voluntarily switch sides or they are imunne to mind-affecting spells. That doesn't mean they can perform coups within their own side.
Perhaps if Ossomer's loyalty goes into the negatives his actions will be still controlled by Wanda in the same way she controls all of the uncroaked, and become an unwilling puppet. Still there are too many decrypted right now for her to control every single unit's actions. What if they end up raising against her ? Common sense would dictate she should disband them... but she's not the faction leader so she can't.
the_tick_rules wrote:Meh, kinda boring update.
Zeku wrote:MarbitChow wrote:Having read the books that GoT is based on, I'm simply going to state that you have chosen a really bad example to demonstrate the point you're trying to prove.
I didn't mention the books. We're all adults here, we can see clearly the distinction between strongly developed characters and moral boundaries. In the TV show we have clear white hats and black hats. Or is murdering children too greyscale?
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Lord Ace Hardware, the Dollamancer, was speaking animatedly to the group.
the_tick_rules wrote:Meh, kinda boring update.
name lips wrote:If Oss turns, like really truly turns and changes sides, then Jetstone has their Heir back, right?
Codex wrote:Roketter wrote:The turnamancer couldn't turn Ansom, but that only means that either the decrypted are unable to voluntarily switch sides or they are imunne to mind-affecting spells.
No no. The Turnamancer hasn't yet tried to turn Ansom, because she's still out of juice from the Kingworld spell.