If it was Bill, I'd figure him for a Naughtymancer
. Either way, no one, right or left would argue that Clinton was a stupid man, but I think it's clear on the left and right that he wasn't always an honest man, or a particularly righteous man. Still, I'd be surprised if you could point to someone reputable who would claim that Clinton was "evil".
Wha? Whitewater, Travelgate, Troopergate, Monica, Paula Jones, Impeachment, Vince Foster? Not enough for a "reputable" person to arrive at the conclusion that Bill was not just a nice but misunderstood guy? Hell, I voted for him (2nd term, Perot got my vote in his 1st term) and for Gore to succeed him on the basis of the good economy and I still don't blind myself against either his peccadilloes nor his probable involvement in other, far more sinister activities. I wouldn't necessarily call him "evil" due to the lack of hard evidence outside of the "keep it in your pants, Bill" issues, but I also wouldn't say that anyone who did choose to make that call wasn't "reputable" on the basis of that conclusion.
walpurgisborn wrote:Either way, I seriously doubt Bush was evil or stupid, although I do think he had a flawed sense of history, a poor understanding of economics, a poor judge of character, and a tendency to act unilaterally when he should be building a consensus.
I conclude that Bush is stupid. However, I was pleased when he removed Federal funding for stem cell research which used aborted fetus materials, and I was proud of the way he reacted to the shoe thrower. The look in his eye and his little grin said to me "You might have thrown your shoes at me, but in about 15 seconds there's going to be 600 lbs of Secret Service pain laying on top of you, jackass." It might seem like a little thing, but he didn't flinch, he didn't cringe (he ducked, but that's just common sense), and the situation was one in which he might have been facing an assassination attempt. The liberal media played that clip over and over as if it painted him in a bad light, and I just kept being impressed with his calm, collected manner throughout.
walpurgisborn wrote:Likewise, I don't believe Obama is evil or stupid either, I feel he merely has a weak understanding of economics, a poor judge of character, and a tendency to try to build consensus when he should act unilaterally.
Obama can truly move me when he speaks. He is clearly an intellectual, and a vast juxtaposition against Bush. I'm probably intellectually biased, but after 8 years of someone I see as being an idiot in the Presidency, I wanted someone like Obama. McCain is admirable, and I thought him a decent second choice. His service to the nation goes without saying, he isn't a hard right politician, and he knows how to compromise across party lines. But Obama spoke to me. I read a few of his books, and he is definitely left of me on several key points, but he still got my vote.
As an independent I get to pick the best candidate, I'm not bound to a party line vote. That gets me called a right winger by the Democrats and a bleeding heart liberal by the Republicans, but that's a small price to pay for voting my conscience.