moose o death wrote:stanley isn't incompetent, he's just not ready for being an overlord.
I hate to seem to pick on you, but you are both articulate and willing to stick your hand out. So I do apologize in advance. However, you are also wrong so I must slap that extended hand. Please forgive me.
OF COURSE STANLEY IS INCOMPETENT. I mean, really. Do I need to list the litany of bad and/or terrible desicions he's made? Perhaps being a bonehead would not be such a bad thing (and its a great thing from a narrative standpoint, he's like a free obstacle provider for protagonists and comic relief), if he listened to wiser advisors. As it is, those around him have to make a saving throw just to convince him to act in his own interest. Admittedly, his ineptitude actually makes him a bit scarrier at times, for when he does pull a "shrewd trick" no one expects it. Admittedly, he's plenty fearsome in battle, but he almost got wiped out at the gap to FAQ.
it's highly likely wanda had stanley promoted to heir one week and had saline killed by gobwins the next.
she's a bulldog about getting that arkentool, saline was not interested, but a regicide would make sure they came to her.
Eh, I think you are putting Wanda a little to high on a pedestal. She admitted to Parson she had no idea how she was going to attune to an Arkentool or even which one she was destined for. The idea that she could both manipulate Saline 4th to promote Stanley to heir designate (maybe he already was), and then convince Stanley to leave for some mission that needed the side's valuable casters including herself, and finally convincing the Gobwins to break their permanent (culturally speaking alliance) at that critical juncture while away is a bit much. Especially consdering her own lack of predictamancy. Wouldn't the path of least resistance at this point for her be to wait for Stanley to get croacked in the field and hope the Arkenhammer falls to her? When the side actually does take up questing for the Arkentools, it very nearly backfires and takes the side to oblivion.
stanley was chiefwarlord to saline 4 and captured the other cities that wanda and ansom have just recaptured. so do not underestimtae his ability to win fights. the problem is he can't win fights if he's not fighting in them. and until he names an heir he can't really stick his head out the window for fear of someone trying to remove it.
I agree Stanley is probably much more competent as a warlord than an overlord. Unfortunately, he's for latter now and thats where he must be judged, and I doubt he was ever very good at strategy even when he was Chief Overlord. That, and the one fight we've seen him in he lost and almost got croaked. So, even his skill as a fighter has limits. Also, the reading I'm getting on Stanley is some one who sees himself and his side as the same thing, and he would never sacrifice the former for the betterment of the latter. He would also never bother to have an heir as that would be admitteding he might croak. That, and if he probably thinks that if he can't survive why should the rest of his side?
parson isn't likely to try and claim any city, he doesn't even want to be a warlord anymore. wanda will leave GK with her army when she feels they can no longer harm her. frankly her current status is cold hearted evil manipulator. it's a little hard to make that into an empathetic character.
Do you mean Wanda will turn at some point when the decrypted comprised a large portion of GK troops? Possible. Very Possible. Now, we know very little about how new sides can be formed. The only examples I can think of is Royalty splitting off and forming a new side, or a ruler getting croaked (whether Royal or not) and his side goes to the heir. The loyatly checks we've seen so far have all been to turn. I mean, is it possible for a unit (even one with traditionally low loyalty like a captured warlord) to decide just one day to be a barbarian? I mean, field units disband if their side falls (exceptions seem to be heirs).
Meanwhile, the best time for Wanda to turn was right at the end of Book 1 when nearly every unit belong to GK was hers except for Stanley's Dwagon stack and the casters. Instead, she smiles and goes to arrange a parade celebrating his return. As the turns have progressed, no matter how many units she decrypts the cities produce normal units loyal to Stanley and she undoubtedly knows he's getting more Dwagons now. If she had any inclination to bolt, she would have already. As it is, she's probably having the most fun she's ever had. Weilding an Arkentool, capturing city after city, decrypting en masse. Picking a fight with Stanley, no matter how much she holds him in contempt, is unwarranted. Though it might make a good story. On the other hand, I like Wanda still being part of the GK crew and able to pow wow with them.
i'm still in love with the idea that GK, faq and charlie go to war against the wanda/rcc legion. and that jillian finds an arkentool. making it 3 tools against the seemingly unstoppable one.
Eh, we all have pet theories. I can't begrudge anyone theirs.
PS. The arkentools are actually alien objects from other dimensions (like Parson), and their abilities is how Erfworld choose to interpret their alien functions. Hence, the odd litany of skills on the arkenhammer.