slb wrote:Per your strange logic then, being asleep and eating should also be closely reserved. That's the funniest explanation I've been given to justify the sex taboo in our civilization
And they aren't, in your opinion? It might be different in France, but most people are very careful where and when they choose to sleep and what, where and how they choose to eat, preferring secure and trusted venues for both events. Of course, you people have all those biological lab experiments you like to pretend to call "cheese" so it might actually BE different there.
I'm still sure you mostly prefer to sleep behind closed doors and likely prefer the right to lock them from the inside, even if you don't actually exercise that right.
You probably missed all the posts in this thread about animals having sex not for a reproductive purpose. Also the higher on the food chain a mammal is, the longer and more frequents are their ruts, compare the matting duration of a rabbit and a lion. Oh, and BTW, the human being is on the top of the food chain ..
Doesn't invalidate his point. :
1: Even if you allow for recreational sex the purpose of procreation is still reproduction (much like the purpose of eating is sustaining life, but we all do like a good bit of chocolate!)
2: Careful selection of partners is still a wiser course of action than the alternative
3: When done incautiosuly sex is a high-risk, high-vulnerability behavior.
4: You know all this and are engaging in moral relativism for its own sake so please stop.
As if the driver for sex in our societies was still linked to the urge of reproduction, or people having sex were relating to it ! You seem to have forgotten the "mind complexity" you were speaking about earlier. Between your reptile brain and the homo sapiens mind there are heaps of cultural sophistication, memes, traditions, education, etc ... How could you seriously think that this reptile brain would trump the social stigma about rape on the victim ?
Do you think you have to? Are you aware just how many of our memes and whims are affected by reptile-brain reactions? These are not opposing forces. They are PARTS OF YOU. neither has to trump the other, they are both just THERE. Each part affects the whole mind and the whole mind affects every thought in society.
Or did you really think that just because the stigma on sexual abuse was a phenomenon of society it had no other basis? That is a very ridiculous assumption.
Rape is far worse than ordinary physical abuse. The first and most obvious reason is the possibility of "the worst case scenario." Not too many rapists are going to agree to use protection or allow a woman to do so. Sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy are both possibilities. The possibility of creating a "child of rape" so greatly compounds the tragedy of rape itself that there is no comparison to all but the most brutal tortures
Speaking of tortures and physical abuse, there is very often some form of sexual element involved in even relatively mudane abuses. For example, the problems in Abu Ghraib where abusive soldiers attacked the pride of prisoners through demeaning their sexuality. Also prisoners of the Hussein regime frequently told stories of sexual abuse to go along with torture and injury. it is a way to get through the defenses of otherwise strong people for exactly the reasons you're ridiculing.
In any case, if you stick to your logic you will probably at least agree with me that rape is not specifically different from any other kind of abuse in Erfworld since it is not related to reproduction.
You do realize there's little actual evidence that sex is or is not related to reproduction/popping in Erfworld. There just has been no definite confirmation that there is a connection.
You are overselling your point and doing it in an irritating, slightly dishonest way. Please stop.