Lipkin wrote:Can you explain how Delphie predicted Jillian would come to Goodminton and find the message if it wasn't rail roading that brought her there?
It was a coincidence that Goodminton happened to be in exactly the right location and just tempting enough to get Jillian to stop there along Jillian's route from Haffaton to Faq, but that was a coincidence that existed even during Delphie's lifetime. It's not as if Haffaton, Goodminton, or Faq moved anywhere in all those turns. No one but a Predictamancer would have been able to see that coincidence, but there was certainly no railroading necessary to make it happen. Sometimes coincidences just happen.
Mrtyuh wrote:In literature, the difference between a coincidence and a contrivance is how natural it seems. The more coincidences that pile up, the more likely they will be seen as contrivances, but it is subjective to the individual reader.
I only said it wasn't railroading. I agree that it is a bit of a strange coincidence, but since it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Jillian's Fate as we understand it, then it doesn't seem like Fate's contrivance. If I was going to call it contrived, I'd say it's just an ordinary literary contrivance. In other words, it's Rob's contrivance, not Fate's. There's no good reason why Goodminton should be located between Haffaton and Faq, but apparently it was. Fate certainly wasn't moving cities around.
Mrtyuh wrote:She could have messaged Wanda by hat. If the two had conspired together, Wanda probably could have given a virtually complete, if not entirely complete, disposition of Haffaton's units. That would have guaranteed Jillian avoiding recapture. Wanda could have given her the location of Judy and Olive, guiding her towards her Fate. Instead she chose to attack the city of Haffaton. There was a problem with that, though. Neither Judy nor Olive were there, so Fate had to intervene and literally drag her insensate to Efbaum, where her Fate awaited.
But both options would equally be Jillian's Fate. Assuming that Wanda would have done the things you describe, that would have guided Jillian toward her Fate, but equally trying to escape Haffaton without Wanda's help seems to have inevitably gotten Jillian captured, also guiding Jillian toward her Fate. That's what it means to have a natural Fate: to be in a position where no matter what choices your make there's naturally no way out, like being surrounded by your enemies on all sides. The thing about Sylvia's Fate that makes it unnatural is that she could easily have been dusted by that arrow, but by strange coincidence she wasn't. Jillian had no easy way to avoid her Fate.
Mrtyuh wrote:It's a bigger coincidence than you realize.
That's very interesting! Could you explain what part of it is a big coincidence?
Mrtyuh wrote:Jillian had sent the Faq contingent towards the city of Haffaton, but they came to Efbaum instead.
Actually that's not true. She sent them the message in Episode 48
and it gives the full text, plus explicitly telling us that Jillian chose not to tell Faq about their target city. Without Jillian's help, they must have simply used magic to tell them where they should go.