I agree, but what Parson enjoys doesn't seem relevant. Parson doesn't get to make those sorts of decisions. The more interesting issue is what Stanley would enjoy. Plus, we are a long way from the point at which they need to make that decision; until they get rid of Charlie it's far too early for Gobwin Knob to worry about the rest of the world. It's hard to guess how characters may develop in the distant future.Lipkin wrote:Going after neutral sides in a rolling wave of decryption is both ruthless, and easy. Parson wouldn't enjoy it.
Lilwik wrote:You're probably right, but the more we get to know royals the more I wonder if they may simply have an unshakable belief that they are superior, whether they like to believe it or not. It may be so built into them that they don't even have the option to believe otherwise.ManaCaster wrote:They like believing that they are superior to everyone else.
Lilwik wrote:The laws of Erfworld don't change. The laws are the foundation upon which everything else is built. Parson's only real power is cleverness, and cleverness doesn't make him a titan. He can't cross a hex boundary without move. What he can do is exploit the rules as they are in ways that no one else on Erfworld would ever think of, and I'm sure we'll see more of that before Parson is finished. Maybe instead of conquering everything Parson will find a way to end war by using the laws in a new way, perhaps with the help of the Arkendish. If he comes up with something even better than decrypting the whole world, that would be the ultimate Parson moment.ManaCaster wrote:More likely, the very laws of Efworld will be changed to make war both undesirable and nearly impossible.
ManaCaster wrote:Hey, does anyone else think it would be cool if Parson's last major opponent was a fallen Titan of some sort?
rkyeun wrote:Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
ManaCaster wrote:Lilwik wrote:You're probably right, but the more we get to know royals the more I wonder if they may simply have an unshakable belief that they are superior, whether they like to believe it or not. It may be so built into them that they don't even have the option to believe otherwise.ManaCaster wrote:They like believing that they are superior to everyone else.
That would certainly explain Jillian, who hates Royal posh consciously, and yet shows some signs of Royal vanity that even she is surprised at.
GWvsJohn wrote:All barbarians all across Erfworld act at the same time. So it's not just MK barbarians, GK would have to wait for every barbarian everywhere to finish turn.
- What happened to Cubbins?
Now what is our strategic goal here?
End war on Erf.
Close. It's to render the enemy incapable or unwilling to MAKE war in the first place.
zilfallon wrote:ManaCaster wrote:Hey, does anyone else think it would be cool if Parson's last major opponent was a fallen Titan of some sort?
You mean, like, one of the titans decides that the guy abusing the boop out of their laws must be stopped while the other titans stay neutral and that titan creates his own retardedly overpowered side to stop Lord Hamster?
Yeah, that would be EPIC.
I was mildly interested that Parson said he was going to kill Charlie by Thinkagram. Everyone has pointed out how that means he was giving Charlie a declaration of war because Charlie could listen in, but it's also interesting that Wanda couldn't hear it, therefore preventing her from reacting to that plan yet. On the other hand I don't think it will matter to her much. She wouldn't be in favor of actually killing Charlie, but capturing and turning him would fit nicely into her plans, so she wouldn't make much of a fuss about going to war against him if ordered to do it.cheeseaholic wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned Wanda's probable reaction to Parson going against Charlie yet.
But it's puzzling. To me, at least. Parson knows that Charley can hack thinkagrams, and so it's clear that he is sending a message to Charlie. But he also knows that Jojo is working for Charlie, and so simply saying out loud to Issac the same thing he said via thinkagram would have achieved the same goal. And it would have notified the entire MK of his goal. Obviously the MK isn't of one mind regarding Charlie, or Jojo wouldn't be his tool, but at least the thinkamancers appear to be of one mind on the subject, and they seem to have the respect of most of the other casters.cheeseaholic wrote:Nice job Parson with the "And figure out how to kill Charlie" via thinkagram. He's forcing the Great Minds into the fray with that. Less thinking more doing. He could have certainly agreed to follow them outside of thinkagram so he's trying to drag them in. He'll be negotiating from more strength with them forced into it.
Now, now. I'll hate who I want to hate, thank you very much. And for the record, I don't invest much if any emotion into the forums, so hate doesn't even come into it. I am the less nice guy, but that's only because I have a lower tolerance for fools. Jack excepted, of course.0beron wrote:EDIT: Oh and lastly, my name is spelled with a zero. Keep misspelling it, and you're going to get the guy who actually spells it with an "oh" pissed at you...and you really don't want BOTH of us hating you...considering I'm by far the much nicer one.
Zeroberon wrote:So we know with 100% certainty that THIS IS HOW TRI-LINKS WORK, PERIOD END OF STORY.
The Titanic Mandate is not that Royals shall rule all others, it is that Royals shall see themselves as the rulers of all others. And as such, like Parson said, any time a non-Royal gets too powerful, they gang up to beat them down. It's one of those rules in Erfworld that keeps wars going, so it's one of the rules that Parson is going to have to break.
No one in particular wrote:What Parson is going to have to do is demonstrate that war is UNPROFITABLE.
Hahaha, I love these rare little moments of agreement we have. You score points for liking Jack alsoOberon wrote:...I have a lower tolerance for fools. Jack excepted, of course.
GJC wrote:Two guys with basically the same name in a discussion about a character getting cloned.
There's gotta be a good joke in here somewhere.
So even if Parson cleverly figured out a better way of life for Erfworlders, that wouldn't end war because people would always go to war for foolish reasons and greed for the short-term gain. Does that mean that only uniting Erfworld into a single vast side could end war? If the whole world were one side, that would certainly end war temporarily, but it would also create a single point of failure for the entire world.Tonot wrote:Others in the rw, like the British Empire did, kept going into new wars because, though ultimately they were unprofitable in the extreme, in the short term they boosted production and brought in captured gold to use as props to their artificial value unit. Why then, would it stop conflict in a world where the entire point and make-up of the nations, is to wage war?.
Diacritic wrote:Maybe Parson's casting ability isn't due to a special trait that he has, it's just that he's from Stupidworld, where what people can learn isn't defined by their caste. He's got some tiny chance at casting just because you tend to pick things up if you're around them enough.
Lilwik wrote:Perhaps there is some secret that the Arkendish has revealed to Charlie that we don't know yet, and once Parson discovers this secret he'll see a new possibility for all of Erfworld that we can't even begin to guess.
That's impossible for a human in Stupidworld, but Parson is affected by magic in Erfworld, and I think it's clear that what he was sensing was what any caster would sense when reading the scroll as a magical effect caused by the scroll. It's what allows Jack to read a Healomancy scroll even though he isn't a Healomancer; the scroll gives him instant awareness of what he needs to know by scroll magic. In this case I'm not at all sure that the awareness that Parson had was a true sense, since it seemed to tell him what the scroll wanted him to think rather than the truth. We know Isaac looked at the scroll while it was open and yet couldn't be sure what the scroll would do. Perhaps that was because Isaac wasn't blindly accepting the knowledge the scroll would magically put into his mind, especially from a Carnymancy scroll. Or maybe Isaac was lying because he didn't want Parson to leave Erfworld.ManaCaster wrote:The problem with that theory is, the text update that revealed his casting skill described casting as a special, manipulable, sense. It is impossible for a human to "learn" an entirely new sense into being.
The interesting thing about that is that Parson hasn't been given even the senses that all Erfworlders have. Parson can't even see the boundaries between hexes.ManaCaster wrote:It would have to be surgically attached somehow. I'm guessing that Parson's caster special came with whatever mechanism plugged him into Erfworld's system.
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