Lipkin wrote:With Charlie's connections. Charlie can be the Thinkamancer of the link, and one of the casters of Unaroyal that swore only to serve royal sides was a Findamancer. That leaves only the need for a Predictamancer. If it's fated to be, who says they won't help?
And why would Charlie do this? What's in it for him, to give a perfect warlord to a side that cannot pay him? I agree that he may be contemplating some of the upsides of having a perfect warlord around; at one point, he wanted Parson. But why give one to Jetstone?
Shai_hulud wrote:The Great Minds do not actually have a monopoly on linking.twhitt wrote:I find it unlikely that Jetstone can summon another Perfect Warlord. The Great Minds won't be doing another linkup for that purpose, since they've got what they want.
No, they do not, and I did not claim they do. I said only that they won't assist, so JS would have to find someone who will.
Shai_hulud wrote:Charlie is afraid of "fated" warlords. Not "random warlord who is able to beat parson in a fight" warlords.
To quote myself, "All they really have access to is Charlie, possibly, and considering the other Perfect Warlord is out to kill him I can see why he might not be so keen to give a second one to a weakly-aligned side." The point is that Charlie has no specific reason to assist Jetstone. If he were to cast the spell - and I don't claim he couldn't - why would it be for Jetstone? The motive simply isn't there. The region is destabilizing due to Parson, and Charlie's interest is to see Parson eliminated in order to return to business as usual. How does summoning a perfect warlord and giving it to Jetstone help him to return to the status quo he desires?
The majority of known thinkamancers are out, because they've all bet on Parson. We've never been 100% clear on the other two disciplines in the link, as Wanda specifically named Predictamancy, Lookamancy and Findamancy as having been involved. The predictamancers have no known reason to assist; in fact, it seems counter to what predictions they've already made. Findamancers and Lookamancers are big unknowns; not a single one has appeared in the story recently, not a single one is known to associate with Jetstone, and the only one you think may have is probably one who swore not to work with Charlie anyway.
Shai_hulud wrote:They need a Lookamancer, not a Predictamancer. Trem doesn't need a "Perfect" warlord who will fulfill 4 predictions, he just needs one who can fight Parson. His requirements are less strict than the spell that summoned Parson. Hell, Charlie probably has a list at least four people long already.
Again, we do not know precisely which disciplines are required. To quote Wanda, "the Findamancers and Predictamancers have forged a spell together." Book 1, page 5. Later, she calls it a "Findamancy/Lookamancy thing." Book 1, page 36. The most coherent argument I can manage is that the linkup is Thinkamancer-Findamancer-Predictamancer, while casting the spell requires the scroll be used by a Lookamancer or someone capable of it; Wanda can do this, but she's not a Findamancer and thus can't change the parameters too much. Book 1, page 17. Jetstone has not a single one of these disciplines available, nor money to hire them. At best, they might get Charlie as the Thinkamancer, but why would he do that?
All of this doesn't mean that it's impossible for the SPW spell to be recast. Charlie knows the particulars, has the cash, and a deep stable of connections with various casters. That's not what you guys are suggesting, though, is it? You're suggesting he will do this for Jetstone. Jetstone, who has no money. Jetstone, who has no resources of their own to put toward the cast. Jetstone, who has no connections.
I simply don't see that happening.