asparagus wrote: Lipkin wrote:
fjolnir wrote:How does what Dig Doug was told about dirtamancy being "Low Magic" Jive with Sizemore being concidered a "Rock Star" in the magic kingdom? It seems like dirtamancers don't actually fit in with the carny/predict/shock/croak groups as their skills are slightly better valued across the board.
They are are considered boons to the community of the Magic Kingdom, because everything built there has to be done by Dirtamancer, or by hand. Whereas rulers mostly see them as making upgrading cities cheaper, which is mostly a one-time expenditure, and as being able to make Crap golems, which is not the most glamorous work.
I'm wondering to what extent we could order the different schools of magic by reputation. Obviously retconjurors would be highest since they do not exist for all practical purposes. Next seem to be dollamancers, thinkamancers, signamancers, monyemancers. However the reputation of thinkamancers might take a dive if royals knew how they really operated. I suspect signamancy has a high reputation because it seems so abstract and they seem to act as lawyers sealing contracts. The others might be based on too small a sample size of views. We know dirtamancy comes near the bottom but croakamancy, carneymancy and predictamancy seem to actually vie for bottom place.
I doubt that reputation within the magic kingdom is interesting. It's reputation amongst rulers that is the question.
I think there are a few different things that affect how worthwhile a caster is perceived by a ruler:
1) Specific needs of the kingdom. Some sides might really need a dirtamancer like Homekey does and so Digdoug is valued. Other sides may not need them as much, so the ruler is somewhat justified in having a lower opinion of their tactical value. Some caster disciplines seem pretty much useful to everyone, like Thinkamancers, so they're generally highly regarded everywhere you go.
2) Notions of fairness and honor. Croakamancy is a fairly powerful discipline, but it's looked down upon because it desecrates dead bodies. Rulers don't dislike croakamancy because it's weak, they dislike it because it's dirty fighting. Carnymancy and Preditamancy are viewed as dirty for meddling with the titans' plans, by violating the rules they laid down or by trying to gain an advantage by learning your fate before it happens.
3) Ruler's biases. Dollamancers are very useful, but I have no doubt that royals value them even more than they're worth because they like the pretty clothes they make. Also, look at how Jetstone valued the unit creation powers of Dollamancy, while simultaneously discounting Ace's powers to make magic items. And Faq, a kingdom devoted to avoiding conflict, seemed to have a low opinion of their combat oriented shockamancer. And dirtamancers are looked down on because some people discount defensive construction in favor of flashy attacks and power during battles. Someone quietly buffing your cities on peaceful turns is going to get less notice than the healomancer on the front lines, restoring units mid-battle.