arbo wrote:oslecamo2_temp wrote:Shockmancers must have it extra tough in the MK. They have no utility skills that others would want to hire them for.
Be creative. I can think of several highly profitable, entertainment-oriented niches shockmancers could explore. People who love kinky can be found anywhere.
Oohhh, excellent point there! Fireworks and flashing could be counted as utility of sorts.
Althernai wrote:Lilwik wrote:There was nothing in that time when Jillian was a fugitive that suggested her foraging for food was a special case that couldn't work if she weren't a fugitive, so it still works as evidence that foraging can totally cover upkeep. Now all we have is evidence suggesting the opposite, which doesn't settle anything. On the contrary, now we have to figure out a ways to reconcile the conflicting evidence. Maybe being a fugitive is a special case, or maybe the Magic Kingdom doesn't have enough natural food to let everyone forage for survival. Maybe casters aren't as good at foraging as warlords. Maybe people can easily forage for survival in the Magic Kingdom and Dove is choosing not to tell Digdoug about that.oslecamo2_temp wrote:And if nothing else, at least this update ends the "You can totally forage to fully cover your upkeep if you're not a prisoner" discussion.
There was a debate about being able to hunt and forage to cover upkeep? It's pretty clearly stated here:Jillian could have hunted one down herself, but they left her a good meaty haunch to roast. After a moment's consideration, she took it, split it, and wedged it between two shale slabs at the edge of her campfire. She set her gwiffons on the remaining carcass, to suck the marrow and absorb the hooves and horns. It added one more day her provisions would last.
There is nothing in this update that contradicts this. The Magic Kingdom is not wild territory with random critters running around. Every piece of it that we've seen has casters and it's a pretty safe bet that every natural resource has been appropriated by somebody or other. And casters who are about to take the Long Walk can't go foraging elsewhere -- the only way out is through a portal which means they'd have to be allied with a capital side.
Except that what Jillian covered up in that example are provisions. Not upkeep. Different things, otherwise they wouldn't have different names. Having provisions reduces your upkeep, but doesn't fully cover up for it (unless you're a prisioner).
After all, as I mentioned in the other thread, mercenary Jillian was forced to disband her own forces in the past for being unable to pay their upkeep. If provisions could fully cover upkeep, she would've never been forced to such dire measures, because her high mobility force should have little problems foraging for all the food they would need.