Excellent points, Stryke
- I hadn't considered the tactical consequences of allowing multiple attacks, but it certainly opens up new possibilities.
Stryke wrote:I was under the impression that Herbie was gonna attack first, there by allowing me to bypass the ranged stack and attack the beserkers with Deus's ranged stack. I then decided to bring Ex in to finish off charles the red as it seemed like a good idea. however as Ex croak the entire of Charles remaining stack (as one unit counts as a stack in itself) her FTG should reset to 1 meaning she can attack the remainder of the bezerker stack for full damage.
To clarify - Herbie's first attack has already occured. You guys can now attack either stack - the Big Berserker Stack, or the remainder of the Big Ranged Stack (aka a wounded Charles the Red).
Ex's fatigue will stay at 1, correct.
Stryke wrote:Actually what would happen if Deus were to restack with Ex then attack the remainder of the beserker stack. would the rest of the stack deal full damage and Deus only 75% of his (which would still be a big boost) or would the entire stack drop to 75% in which case could the still benefit from his leadership bonus if he chose to lead.
Combining a fatigued stack with a non-fatigued stack will mean that the fatigued units fight at 75% of their previous strength; the fresh ones hit for their full attack. The math will get a bit more complicated for whoever runs the battle, but not too much so. The fatigue penalty factors out, so you can calculate it into each unit's base attack strength and then assume the whole stack is fresh.
So in short, Deus would still contribute his full leadership bonus if he restacked and attacked again, but his individual attack would be reduced to 75% its previous attack (although he is mélee and you prob don't want him to fight anyway).
Stryke wrote:however the better idea might be to attack with Deus anyway. I need to know how much of his stack survived and if it would be ennough to finish the stack off (and if it was would that then reset his ftg to 1) which should be with out retalliation as he's ranged.
Just to make sure this clear - Deus's stack will get retaliation from whatever survives the first volley. It won't be much, but you'll probably lose a few archers. If he wipes everything out in the second volley, he won't get any retaliation. (cause everything is dead
His fatigue would stay at .75 though - he won't incur any further
fatigue, but he won't get an instant energy boost.
Another thing is that if i attack with Ex is that would count as two attacks in which her stack would probablt deal more damage therefore 2XP and wh'e level with the remainder of her stack, then again she could restack with the archers for th same result and none of the damage.
I can't speculate on whether she'd win both battles (I don't have numbers in front of me), but if she wins both, she and her stack would all level.
Could i attack with Deus to do serious damage to the Beserker stack then finish charles of with Ex and her piker stack, then restack Ex with Deus and have that stack attack again, that would level Ex and the Archers, plus both stacks would have a FTG of 1.
1) Attacking Berserkers with Deus's ranged Archer stack? Yep.
2) Finishing Charles with Ex and pikers? Yes - though Ex's pikers will suffer losses as they close in (combat will be non-simultaneous - Charles will fire first, and then whatever survives will then attack him)
3) Do you mean restacking Ex with Deus and his archer stack? If so, yes - everyone in that stack would gain a net 2nd XP, enough to level Ex and the Archers.
4) Fatigue will NOT reset to 1. Deus and his archers will probably be left with .75; Ex will probably be at 1 though. I think it's irrelevant at this point anyway, since it's kind of implied that fatigue resets back to 1 each time the turn changes. That doesn't quite make sense in terms of Erfworld though, and I doubt we ever really had this situation before in previous games. As far as I can remember, the MCC never had a situation where a stack was attacked by GB, survived, and then continued to advance forward.