Reactions to "A new life"

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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:54 am

Ah... Well now dont I feel better.. ~Rolled a 2 on his tactician check~ Seemed like a good idea at the time. XD

okay then... ~reworks post~

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Well at least he can lean over next roung and turn all the creatures in the gateway if he feels that's the action he should take. I dont think my suggestions have proven very successful so far.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby chrono » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:58 am

Raigne wrote:And chrono, I can see your equipment, but your sheet doesn't indicate how many of each weapon you have... but you already said 10 daggers somewhere, didn't you? And the rest is under other possessions.

It says x10 in the ammunition box and it also says 10lb in the weight box. I know I could have written 'x10' where the weapon's name is, but I use daggers as thrown weapons (so they're like shuriken to me, so ammunition is in general more appropriate).

Lothmar, sorry about mentioning the cats but my climbing on the palisade would have been totally useless if it wasn't for them.

@Muth - I'm not complaining about the game. The railroad comment was ONLY relating to your sentence that I quoted (which seemed like you were telling me what I should do IC). I know our actions aren't the most logical (or efficient) ones, but it's the first combat and it's not unexpected for us to be stupid (both IC and OOC, i.e. me running around in medium load and not knowing it), disorganized or panicky. Also I think Lothmar mentioned the possibility of AOE first (I just stood out of the way).

Edit: and I'm sure as hell not getting down any time soon. Sure, I feel all powerful and stuff because of the songs, but as far as I know IC the others were also under the same influence and they got blown all over the place. Also I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be taking this "the show must go on" as seriously as you do (or you expect us to). Currently getting stabbed seems like a worse outcome than the party stopping - IC I really wouldn't know any better.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:32 pm

Yeah, that's the only reason I ran instead of toughing it out. Bare survival instinct is telling me 'let the fresh troops cycle in if they're coming to help'. Of course next round I intend and try and get some payback, but that's assume they dont start targeting our healthy guard/party member combos on the walls and I end up accidently taking another aoe in the face and get sent flying of the walls onto one the villagers spears cause I fumbled on a luck roll. XD
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:38 pm

Lothmar wrote:Yeah, that's the only reason I ran instead of toughing it out. Bare survival instinct is telling me 'let the fresh troops cycle in if they're coming to help'. Of course next round I intend and try and get some payback, but that's assume they dont start targeting our healthy guard/party member combos on the walls and I end up accidently taking another aoe in the face and get sent flying of the walls onto one the villagers spears cause I fumbled on a luck roll. XD


No. You'll see something like this, happen.

DM FAIT> Lothmar goes flying, but does not land on a spear.

Edit: I'm waiting on chrono to post what he's doing for this next round before I can continue.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:46 pm

; ; Cant a man die comedically to inspire the bad guys if he so wants?
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:52 pm

Lothmar wrote:; ; Cant a man die comedically to inspire the bad guys if he so wants?


If it happens it will be because I'll have lost my temper over something, and as soon as that happens, I'm not just a noob DM, but a bad one, too.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:55 pm

MuthSera wrote:
Lothmar wrote:; ; Cant a man die comedically to inspire the bad guys if he so wants?


If it happens it will be because I'll have lost my temper over something, and as soon as that happens, I'm not just a noob DM, but a bad one, too.


~Pats back~ There, there...
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:51 pm

I didn't see chrono's post with the word railroading in it. I though you were directing that at me because of what I said last night.

I hope you realize that I was referring to a situation where-in you know beyond a doubt that the party can't win because you specifically designed an encounter that way. If that isn't what you're doing, then I am happy. I shouldn't have moved. I could have cast a magic missile instead. I didn't because it'd be useless if the mages are using shield, and I kind treat it as an ace in the hole. That's my decision and the fight got a little tougher as a result. Raigne knows they're at least level three. She can deduce now that they probably aren't much higher if they consider Sound Burst "getting serious". There's an archer up on the palisade who can still attack (unhindered now, aside from concealment) and he and his buddy on the other side have already gotten that mage down to seriously injured in two turns. We're bruised but this situation's still salvageable.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:00 pm

. . .PArt of me knew that was going to happen.
I really should have redied my standard action, would have been a clear shot to those mages and no one would think im a coward for running XD. But if I based my post on what was going to happen (and cant necessarily forsee(but highly suspect)) rather then what was or is happening i'd feel like I was metagaming.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:18 pm

Lothmar wrote:. . .PArt of me knew that was going to happen.
I really should have redied my standard action, would have been a clear shot to those mages and no one would think im a coward for running XD. But if I based my post on what was going to happen (and cant necessarily forsee(but highly suspect)) rather then what was or is happening i'd feel like I was metagaming.

Not so. Your initative came after Joshua's. But I can't imagine you being very clear headed after waking up, either.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:20 pm

No, it's just good tactics, not metagaming. You should be anticipating what the enemy will do. I was standing behind the guard for a reason. He'd ruin the LOS for two of the mages if they wanted to target me at that point. Then I figured if they centered it on one of the other party members they may still be able to hit me anyway, so I may as well ensure my shot had the best chance to hit.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:50 pm

Raigne wrote:No, it's just good tactics, not metagaming. You should be anticipating what the enemy will do. I was standing behind the guard for a reason. He'd ruin the LOS for two of the mages if they wanted to target me at that point. Then I figured if they centered it on one of the other party members they may still be able to hit me anyway, so I may as well ensure my shot had the best chance to hit.

He's not talking about anticipating what the mages are going to do. He's talking about anticipating that Joshua was going to turn undead, and be successfull at it, to boot.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:57 pm

See, I don't find anything wrong with that line of thinking either. Of course, I also don't see anything inherently unethical about counting cards either, so perhaps my perspective is biased.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby LadyBhaal » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:02 pm

One of the fun things about being 1/2 a world away is that I see all sorts of posts responding to a comment, but not the comment itself *giggles*

I totally agree that 3 mages wouldn't bother attacking a town full of people (3rd level mages at that) unless they were very well prepared, and had something much bigger than them hiding out in the mist. We don't know what's behind the mages yet, and we're already close to dead :(

Standard D&D is turning out to be very difficult to adjust to. As a 1st level cleric here, I can cast 1 CLW (and another time as I have a good WIS score) As a first level Favored Soul in DDO I could cast CLW 27 times.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:50 pm

I don't think their goal is to level the town. Townspeople are taking up arms to fight, which means they aren't partying. I think that's the point here. To disrupt the party and thus kill the spell.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:56 pm

Raigne wrote:I don't think their goal is to level the town. Townspeople are taking up arms to fight, which means they aren't partying. I think that's the point here. To disrupt the party and thus kill the spell.


Bingo. So far, it's only a few of the commoners. Perhaps they won't hurt the spell. If too many do, however....
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:50 pm

So then my next guess, that similar attacks are being perpetrated on the other two towns right now, is probably also right? :P
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby MuthSera » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:51 pm

Careful Noah. Only 2 of them are injured, and they have a cat.
You're also prone. Double move to chase.

Edit: They're bleeding. Blood is red, and snow is white.
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Raigne » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:11 pm

The snow's also not going anywhere. Though, new stuff could fall and cover the trail, couldn't it?
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Re: Reactions to "A new life"

Postby Lothmar » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:14 pm

That and you'd likely end up getting lost in the fog.
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