Darkness Rising

by **MarbitChow** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:10 am

Turn 9 - Assault on Dis City - Round 1 - Phase 3 (Part 2)

Phase Three sees the Tenebrisian casters suffer some of the worst luck they've seen yet. While all of their shots land, none succeed in downing any targets (due to bad luck and Armolad's leadership). The bulk of the Elven forces enter the hex, but appear to be holding their shots...

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Ready units can fire on the elves as the enter. If you choose to wait until the elves get into position, any attacks against the elves would be simultaneous with their attacks, if any.

by **The Colonel** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:07 am

Kill the archers?

by **Werebiscuit** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:16 am

The Colonel wrote:Kill the archers?

Unfortunately I think Swodaems might be right we need to exchange fire with them once they stop dodging at the moment we're working against defs of 15 & 17 with coms of 14 & 11. Those will lower to defs of 9 when they stop dodging.
However we'll pick off the faeries with Comet firing on FE14 and the last garrison archer (we previously only used 6) at FE16.

by **Werebiscuit** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:43 am

Marbit, Dodging rules say that a unit gets to dodge "until the start of their next action" .
Does that mean they must stop dodging when they fire or does that dodging continues until their next action at com=7 on round 2. It's important to know as it will govern when we take shots on their archery.

by **MarbitChow** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:37 am

Werebiscuit wrote:Marbit, Dodging rules say that a unit gets to dodge "until the start of their next action" .
Does that mean they must stop dodging when they fire or does that dodging continues until their next action at com=7 on round 2. It's important to know as it will govern when we take shots on their archery.

Units stop dodging when they act. They gain actions based on their Combat, but dodging lasts until they use it.

by **0beron** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:44 am

I suspect the units that just entered are either 1) holding their actions so they can keep Dodging or 2) are waiting for us to open the gate and charge them so they can fire as soon as it opens. Of course, they can accomplish both goals with the same order. I don't know what units we have left to fire with, but I suggest we focus on units we know we can kill, so they don't get healed. If we have enough firepower left, I suggest one of the Gumps as that target.

by **ETheBoyce** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:13 am

No letting their archers shoot at us is a terrible idea letting them potentially croak our units is a massive waste of time and shmuckers. Unstead we should focus on taking out the archers that are in position to be supported/coordinated the most: EE02, 03, 04, and 07. Each of those has 3 other archers adjacent and combat modifiers have to be declared at the start of turn so unless Armolad was planning on them dieing to draw fire from the real buffed units their deaths should negate any real threat to our PCs this round as well as substantially decrease any damage they seek to deal

by **0beron** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:04 pm

Like I said, focus on the most dangerous unit(s) that we are confident we can croak by the end of the round. Gumps are our biggest threat because of how quickly they might take down a tower. The only units that we have exposed to enemy fire at the moment are very well defended, so we can hold up to a volley from them. However Gumps are strong, and I don't know if we have the firepower remaining in this round to take one out. So if that is correct, focus key archer targets instead.

by **Werebiscuit** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:30 am

ETheBoyce wrote:No letting their archers shoot at us is a terrible idea letting them potentially croak our units is a massive waste of time and shmuckers. Unstead we should focus on taking out the archers that are in position to be supported/coordinated the most: EE02, 03, 04, and 07.

OOC ok guys...the problem is this (sorry for any text walls ).If we fire as they come in they have dodging def which takes their def to 15 (for 1st lvl archers) and 17 ( for 2nd lvl). Our archers will have combat scores of 14 and 11 so even our best archers are doing 2d6 -1 against their lowest archers. Our first arrow would need to roll good to even take out their ward. We will need to assign 3 archers to each target to even have a hope of taking the target out and it only givers us a 50% of doing so.

We have 9 archers at com 14 so our shots from them would give us a 50% chance of taking 3 of their 1st level archers down. If firing as they enter.

We have 12 archers at com 11 who would be doing 2d6-4. We would need at least 6 of these to pick the same target to get a 50% chance of causing 18 damage (10 hits + 8 ward)l. So using up all of these firing on entry would give us a 50% chance of downing another 2 1st level archers.
Our entire force of 21 archers give us a 50% chance of downing 5 of their lowest level of archery... so we should get about 2. Does that sound a good use of our archery to you ?

If we fire as they do their defence drops to 9 for both 1st & 2nd Level. So even our lowest level are now doing 2d6 +2 meaning we need about 2 (a lot different from 6 , eh ?) to do the 18 damage. If we triple up (3 onto 1 target) we can be confident (90%) of taking down 4 ( or have 55% at 6 with 2 to 1target).

Our 9, com =14 skellies are doing 2d6 + 5. We can go 2-1 for their lowest level ( with ward 8) or 3-1 for their 2nd level ( with ward 16) and be fairly confident of taking out 4 (90% chance) lower or 3 higher ( 70 %) level archers.

So if we let them get shots off we can in all probability bring down 8 archers with our entire archery /OOC.

by **The Colonel** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:13 am

Seems legit, DO WE DO IT!?

by **Werebiscuit** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:16 am

ETheBoyce wrote: Unstead we should focus on taking out the archers that are in position to be supported/coordinated the most: EE02, 03, 04, and 07.

You realize if we fire at those targets before they take up those positions we'll be acting on meta information and Marbit will probably retcon their positions.
If we let them get to those positions then they will have the chance to fire as we do so they'll be taking on their targets anyway.

It'd take our whole remaining archery force to bring down 3 with any certainty and we'd only have a slightly better than 50% (about 59%) chance at bringing down all 4, if we fire before they get there...and then Marbit will probably retcon the positions.

if they're taking on our high value targets ( based on the fact that there appear to be 4 groups) they'll need to do better than a 30 def. So if each archer adds +6 Co-ordinate AND Support then each group has a combined com of 14 +18 = 32 and will do 2d6+2 damage. That won't even take out a ward.
It will however cause havoc with our 18 def archers as it can do 2d6 + 14 damage.
They can try for 2 targets each at 2d6 +24damage which starts to threaten but given they'll have to do minimum 36 damage to kill means they need to roll a 12, and to kill so we couldn't be raised needs a 17 on 2d6 (impossible)
They'd need to use up 9 of their archery to have a pretty certain chance of taking out 1 PC and us removing 3 of them before they fire isn't going to bring them below that given that they have 16.

by **MarbitChow** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:24 am

The level 1 archers entered the field first. If you choose to fire on archers as they entered, I would resolve this by selecting one of the level 1s at random and attacking it with as many archers as you dedicated to a single kill. If you choose to attack based on position, your side and the elves would be able to fire simultaneously.

by **Werebiscuit** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:38 am

MarbitChow wrote:The level 1 archers entered the field first. If you choose to fire on archers as they entered, I would resolve this by selecting one of the level 1s at random and attacking it with as many archers as you dedicated to a single kill. If you choose to attack based on position, your side and the elves would be able to fire simultaneously.

Thanks for that guidance Marbit. I now realize we're in the classic mexican standoff. They don't want to fire as it ruins their def against us by removing the dodge bonus. We are in the same position, except that we've given them a bunch of garrison archer easier targets (since they've fired and so have no dodge bonus).

Wonder whose nerve will break first ? :twisted:

Just in case you missed it earlier, Marbit

Werebiscuit wrote: However we'll pick off the faeries with Comet firing on FE14 and the last garrison archer (we previously only used 6) at FE16.

by **0beron** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:39 am

Okay, so here's the deal:

It is impractical to target the enemy archers.
It is impossible to damage Gumps with our remaining archers.

Therefore, I think we need to focus on the next worst threat, the Fairies. Because of their special, they are the most significant threat to our units on the Tower-top, yet their low stats make them reasonably easy to hit.

Orders edited to below.

by **MarbitChow** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:00 am

Werebiscuit wrote: However we'll pick off the faeries with Comet firing on FE14 and the last garrison archer (we previously only used 6) at FE16.

Ok, noted.

0beron wrote:All remaining archers fire one after the other, at Fairies, focusing a single target until croaked, then moving to the next. Lowest level units will fire first. Any remaining archers once all Fairies have been croaked will continue to hold actions.

Note that in order for units to conditionally fire (wait to see if the target is killed, then fire or retarget), each result takes place on the next phase. It's much better to, for example, assign 2 archers to each target, then assign, say 4 total archers to cleanup on the next phase, rather than trying to fire in sequence; that way it takes at most 2 or 3 phases, instead of 1 phase per archer.

by **0beron** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:03 am

MarbitChow wrote:Note that in order for units to conditionally fire (wait to see if the target is killed, then fire or retarget), each result takes place on the next phase. It's much better to, for example, assign 2 archers to each target, then assign, say 4 total archers to cleanup on the next phase, rather than trying to fire in sequence; that way it takes at most 2 or 3 phases, instead of 1 phase per archer.

Okay, I go with this
2 archers (chosen from lowest level available) fire at each Fairy. The remaining archers will hold to see the results of this volley.

by **Werebiscuit** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:08 am

Marbit Since the Garrison archer is a com=7 we'll have him take out FE15 instead of FE16

by **MarbitChow** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:06 am

Sorry about the delay in updates, guys. The next update will be tomorrow morning.

by **Werebiscuit** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:29 am

MarbitChow wrote:Sorry about the delay in updates, guys. The next update will be tomorrow morning.

No worries Marbit just remember our remaining archery (9 skeleton & 4 Zed or regular whichever's left) are on standby to fire if the elves do
As soon as they see the elven archery release arrows they will fire 2 per target at the 1st level archery. The 9th remaining skeleton will pick out one of injured or if there are none injured will fire at at a final 1st leveler.

by **MarbitChow** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:51 am

Turn 9 - Assault on Dis City - Round 1 - Phase 2 through End of Round
Several of the remaining Tenebrisian archers fire, and more Faeries fall from the sky. Due to Armolad's leadership, however, a trio of Faeries remain flying, although two are gravely injured. Hoping that Armolad will shift his leadership to different targets at the start of the turn, the remaining archers ready their actions to fire upon the elven archers, as soon as the latter release their volley.

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