atalex wrote:0beron wrote:I'm not sure if I'm understanding your wording correctly, but if I am, I think you interpreting the Stanley thing totally wrong. Maggie needs to give him "activities" so that he doesn't have time to think and make his own decisions without advice. It's not that she needs him to continue behaving as he has, it's that she needs to prevent him from being reckless.
Personally, I have always suspected that Maggie or perhaps someone else has actively done something to Stanley to make him stupid and capricious. His earlier exploits -- a lowly piker rising to the level of Chief Warlord and Heir -- are inconsistent with the moron he has been portrayed as since Book 1, and several of his internal monologues have described his thinking processes in a manner that suggests a fog-like befuddlement rather than simply not being very smart. Given Maggie's known willingness to use suggestions on him, it's certainly possible that she or someone else did something more long term in the interests of making him pliable.
Shai_hulud wrote:Is anyone else concerned about how super insecure that temple actually looks? Couldn't they just put a veiled eyebook-like item up on the ceiling and then signal with flashing lights to a veiled transmitter outside the pillars? I mean holy shit that place looks like it would be super easy to spy on.
arkerpay wrote:The Great Minds That Think Alike are neither "Great", nor do they "Think Alike". Discuss.
0beron wrote:Recent events from OUR perspective, remember the Great Minds aren't privy to everything we see. Nobody besides Parson knows he was about to succeed at casting that spell, so all the Great Minds have for evidence of his caster-ness is his ability to enter the MK, which can be chalked up to him being "special".ManaCaster wrote:Recent events quite clearly point to [Parson] being [a caster].
badninja wrote:The carnarymancers are fully for Charlie I am willing to bet, being one of their own, how will the rest of the sides divided either for or against the thinkamancers or each individual unit making the choice.
Parson Gotti: But, y'know... he's doing the same to you. And you can't be strong everywhere. So you fall back where he's stronger, and sometimes you do lose. But you roll with it.
Yes, you plan. Okay? But the enemy won't follow your plan.
So the trick is to be fluid, hit him on the fly, define his choices... watch for opportunity, like when he boops up. You have to know more than he does about what's going on.
Which is why you don't withhold information from the guy who plans your battles! You see?
I'm willing to bet the Carnymancers are even moreManaCaster wrote:badninja wrote:The carnarymancers are fully for Charlie I am willing to bet, being one of their own, how will the rest of the sides divided either for or against the thinkamancers or each individual unit making the choice.
Well, all the known Carnymancers are for him. But I doubt the Carnymancers are quite as unified as the Thinkamancers, though.
Demon Lord Etna wrote:Looks like I have to resort to the politician's golden rule: "If they can't prove it, deny, deny, deny."
Shai_hulud wrote:I'm from the USA too. By "you" I meant you guys on this forum. I mean, did you even read the wiki article? They gave the spy device right to the guys, and they carried it into their office themselves. If the GMTTA are even half as self assured as you guys, spying on them would be rather easy.
0beron wrote:Depends on what you mean by insecure. I think the spy technique you're envisioning would be harder than you make it sound, but I suppose it could be possible.Shai_hulud wrote:Is anyone else concerned about how super insecure that temple actually looks?
If you mean physical security though, then yeah it's a popsicle stand! Remember, combat doesn't happen in the MK, so they don't build defensible structures in that regard, they're even forbidden. If Charlie somehow musters a combat force in the MK too, the Temple will not be a strong position (though Sizemore could rapidly make it one)
I would certainly expect a wizard temple to have tons of magical defenses, but this isn't just some wizard temple. What we have here is a wizard temple in Erfworld's Magic Kingdom, a place full of casters who are very weak at combat. Just remember Book 2, Page 110 and think about if you would want those people designing the defenses of your fortress. Even freshly popped casters know Hoboken!Lamech wrote:I think that the Temple while appearing weak from a conventional standpoint, probably enhances their magic to a large degree, and has magical defenses.
But what do they really have to offer her? It's not like Maggie is a tenure track professor who needs to keep the board happy with her performance so that she can achieve tenure. They might be able to pay her some rands, but as a GK unit she really doesn't need that. All I can see that they have to offer is membership in their little club. Which might be something most thinkamancers aspire to simply out of ego, but it's really not much of an incentive.mortissimus wrote:Interesting to get a look into the Thinkomancer's power structure. Think alike or forget about a longterm academic career. No wonder they use Headmaster for title.
She is decrypted, and he already explained why he wouldn't want to bang a decrypted archon. The possibility of Wanda peeping through its eyes skeeves him out.BakaGrappler wrote:I'm more a fan of Parson and Artemis hooking up. That would be optimal in my mind.
They fear him because he bests them at their own discipline. We haven't heard much if any specifics of how that has effected them, but knowing that someone is able to look over your shoulder and observe your business at any time is probably frightening enough without any real specifics needed.Mikalyaran wrote:Does anyone feel like they are clear on what kind of a threat Charlie really poses to the Great Minds? [...] What the hell is worth all this effort to them? Am I missing something?
Zeroberon wrote:So we know with 100% certainty that THIS IS HOW TRI-LINKS WORK, PERIOD END OF STORY.
MonteCristo wrote:I find that it is all explainable enough... When it comes to being promoted from piker; that could have been a simple case of Stanely just plain surviving long enough to be a high level piker. Saline wanted another warlord, but instead of popping one, he thought he'd just promote one of his higher level infantry. Heck, take fate into account and Stanley would have found a way to survive the worst battles despite his incompetence to gain the levels that would make him a more favorable pick
As for the rest; that could all be thanked to the hammer. He found the hammer when he was a warlord, and that allowed him to tamed Dwagons and lead them into battle. Having an army of dwagons by his side, he may not have needed much brain power to be a good warlord; the dwagons allowed him to just have all the brute force he would ever need to fight most any battle he was sent on. If saline wasn't very smart about picking warlords, this could easily lead to him just picking Stanley as his chief warlord by virtue of his power alone. Really one thing we can always question is whether or not Saline was a good leader himself...
Lor wrote:It really is too bad Maggie's card catalog is in such shambles. It is wasn't, she could just play back a certain memory:
Oberon wrote:She is decrypted, and he already explained why he wouldn't want to bang a decrypted archon. The possibility of Wanda peeping through it's eyes skeeves him out.BakaGrappler wrote:I'm more a fan of Parson and Artemis hooking up. That would be optimal in my mind.
We're not supposed to understand it. Whatever this is about, it is something huge, something deep into areas of magic that we don't know about. The Thinkamancers are sure that Parson wouldn't understand, so I'm sure that we wouldn't understand. They use the word "metaphysical," which must mean that the secrets they are keeping from Parson are about the fundamental nature of reality. The idea that Charlie could be a metaphysical threat is baffling and ever so curious.YesNinja wrote:There seem to be a lot of heated, emotional, dramatic plot points revolving around those two things, and I for one don't understand why.
Lilwik wrote:We're not supposed to understand it. Whatever this is about, it is something huge, something deep into areas of magic that we don't know about. The Thinkamancers are sure that Parson wouldn't understand, so I'm sure that we wouldn't understand. They use the word "metaphysical," which must mean that the secrets they are keeping from Parson are about the fundamental nature of reality. The idea that Charlie could be a metaphysical threat is baffling and ever so curious.YesNinja wrote:There seem to be a lot of heated, emotional, dramatic plot points revolving around those two things, and I for one don't understand why.
Consider Summer Update 41: "My secrets have been compromised. You can't imagine what that may mean." If the issue of Charlie really is metaphysical then maybe he really meant it literally and some secret Charlie is keeping has implications beyond Jillian's comprehension of the world, something about the underlying nature of Erfworld that Jillian could never imagine, something that Charlie discovered through the Arkendish, something that the Great Minds know about, and something we can only guess at.
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