Oberon wrote:I'll try again. Football fields, they are the hexes. Ossomer and Tram are standing in one, at the edge of the one Ansom is standing in. Where are the casters? Ansom points over Ossomer's shoulder and says "This field?" Very odd.
odd. I'd have said "That field?" and pointed to the one behind them. But hexes are even bigger than football fields.
You've missed the point entirely. The hex being referenced, according to those who support the "casters are in the same hex as the Jetstone Princes" theory, isn't "the one behind them", it's the one they are standing in.
Pointyleaf wrote:You're standing at the edge of a town, talking to the enemy leader. He says they have heavily fortified machine gun positions in the town, so you can't take it. You laugh, and say "That town?" as you call in the airstrikes.
A poor analogy. A hex isn't the same thing as a town that you can be distant from. If you're in a hex, you're in a hex. There are no different areas in a hex with the sole (to date) exception of cities. This isn't a city fight, yet. You don't refer to a homogeneous area by pointing off in the distance when it is right in front of you. That would be very odd.
Pointyleaf wrote:Y'know, I'm looking forward to you being proven wrong.
I hope I'm right. If I'm wrong, I'd have to conclude that this is a second instance of rather poor writing, as the context simply would not have matched the text.
TiMothra wrote:It says that commanders can see unit stats, but I don't know that it's necessarily that they can see non-allied units' stats.
When Wanda looked at the newly decrypted Ansom and declared him to be "level 10, as he was before" it was made clear that enemy unit stats were indeed visible. There is wiggle room left to argue that only some stats are visible, but this hasn't been even hinted at, and were there any such limitation I would have expected it to have been a factor long before now.
Oberon wrote:Where all of the Jetstone forces in a single hex, the this hex/that hex would make even less sense. Anson had just been told that the casters were deployed to Ossomer's command. If the Jetstone army is in a single hex, it makes zero sense for Ansom to try to discover which hex they are in. It would make no sense at all for him to say "What, all the casters? To that hex?" if the Jetstone army is only occupying a single hex. None at all.
He was trying to discover whether they were in the city of Spacerock or out in the field defending the bridge with the hex of Jetstone troops. If they were in the city then he could take the bridge hex, if they were at the bridge he could attack the city more easily. If they were split up more evenly I guess he'd have to make a judgment call there.
Please. Ossimer had just declared that the casters had been deployed to his command. Deployed has a meaning, look it up. Hint: Deployed does not mean left unmoved and back in the capital city. There is no ambiguity here other than that you are attempting to apply. As soon as Ossimer claimed that the casters were deployed, that meant that they were with the army Ossimer lead. And given that, if that army was only in a single hex, there was zero reason for Ansom to try to determine which hex of army the casters were within.
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Oberon wrote:Awww, did I hurt your hero? Grow up.
He's right. You ARE being rude. I really don't think you'd be acting this way in person.
I certainly would. I have a position. I've supported it with a rationally laid out point of view supported by the framework of the setting. Dark Arbiter replies with what is essentially a "Waa! You've hurt my feeling by saying mean things about my hero!" Were we having this discussion face to face I would laugh out loud and then describe to him exactly how feeble his hero worship makes his point look. You can't possibly be right if you're saying my hero Rob is wrong or has made a mistake, is this your point? Because if it is, you also need to grow up.
Spot wrote:So... Oberon... do you think that the real world history of WW2 was "badly written", or could it be that your theory is flawed?
A nice strawman. But, no. Let me try an example within the framework of the strip. The breaking of the spell on Jillian was one of the many reversals the GK forces endured. Was it stated categorically that the spell on Jillian could not and would not be broken? No, it was not. Instead, Wanda felt that it was unbreakable, even though she allowed that it had limitations on shaping the behavior of the victim. Sizemore thought otherwise, and said so. He had been positioned within the story as a caster with a curiosity about the other fields of magic, even if he wasn't terribly good at the practical applications. A theorist, if you will. And he theorized that Jillian could indeed break out of Wanda's spell. As it turned out, Wanda was wrong, Sizemore was right. But we the readers had a reason to believe that this was the right and proper resolution. Had Sizemore never spoken of his doubts, we'd be in the exact same position as the DDR: A fact explained (Wanda's expectation that Jillian could not break the spell), and then thrown away without notice.
This is poor writing. You don't have to agree with me. I could care less. But I calls them as I see them, and this was poor writing.
DevilDan wrote:When Parson spoke of his players cheating him in a clever manner, he wasn't talking about them moving the pieces if he went to the bathroom, he was talking about the need to think unconventionally, to exploit some rule or mechanism, to do something radically differently. This is what Parson is doing on Erf every turn, analyzing the assumptions and conventional thinking. It's not about changing the rules, it's about really using them.
I agree with this statement.