BillMcD wrote:Cool Hand Luke[/i] is a true classic, and considering the Use Your Illusions albums themselves are now 20 years old, really, if you're old enough to get the Guns reference, calling someone else old is really a case of Pot & Kettle.
That "Dear God" was what set me off. The movie sounds interesting, and a "actually no, that wasn't a GNR reference, it was from the movie that GNR itself referenced" would have worked to (a) let me know, and (b) get me interested in checking it out. As of now the movie is associated in my mind with "old guys who like to show off", so if you guys like it so much, you're not working very hard to make a new fan. As for GNR - apparently they liked the line so much they reffed it twice, it's also on a song in "Chinese Democracy", out late 2008, vs 1967 for the movie (1980-something for the Illusion albums). And liking Led Zeppelin doesn't make me from that era either. Music's different.
Anyways, back on topic -
fjolnir wrote:Re: Thinkamancers, remember, the majority of charlescomm's money is made via providing thinkamancy solutions to sides without them, and orders are conveyed via "natural thinkamancy as well"
Welf von Ehrwald wrote:As fjolnor said, they can pay Charlescomm for Thikagramms. In the update about Charley's business, parson guesses that his most income comes from the thinkagramms. I remember the term "Erfworld's telecom giant" used. Hiuring a thinkamancer from the Magic Kongdom is also an alternative. But I guess sides without thinkamancers work like Jetstone, they use magic items like hats for basic communication and have a lot of warlords, so these can make decisions out in the field without the need for supervision from the chief warlord or the ruler.
hrm, so in terms of the value of casters to a side, having a Thinkamancer seems like a real "edge" to have... while (except for tunnel-fighting) a dirtamancer not as useful... and I guess a hippiemancer (unless also a strategic genius like Parson) is of no combat value at all....
splintermute wrote:I don't think there's a general "lie to Parson" imperative, but units can lie to Parson if they think it's in the best interest of GK. Vurp is a natural ally, as opposed to a GK unit, so there may be less duty there, and maybe his secret about what really happened to Saline is so explosive it would tear GK apart. Maggie wasn't concealing anything from Parson, just weighing the importance of the information against the importance of conserving her remaining juice.
It seems strange to me that in erfworld, where basically the "rank and file" don't have any freedom (per what Archons have to put up with when ordered), they'd have the freedom to decide/choose how and when to lie, I'd have thought it'd be more of an explicit order from Stanley (or is it Wanda?).
Anyways I'm wondering if this conversation between Jillian and Wanda's gonna reveal a bit more about the "origins" ...