Book 2 – Page 32

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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby ComputerSherpa » Fri May 14, 2010 9:23 pm

"May I give you a suggestion, Lord?"

xDDD WIN!

Parson's expression as he looks down and thinks "Did...did she really just do that?" is PERFECT!

"Uh..."
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby doran » Fri May 14, 2010 9:28 pm

Waltz wrote:Boy I wish I could look at what Parson's written on the eyebook about the candidates.


I agree, Toolbox Extra maybe?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby gameboy1234 » Fri May 14, 2010 9:33 pm

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gazes_also wrote:Ansom wasn't dusted but captured. At what point did the post of CWL become vacant?

Actually, now that I think about it, the death of a CWL probably isn't necessary - after all, Parson got demoted and Ansom replaced him.


Righto. It's probably that a side can change Chief Warlords once per turn or so, and with no other restrictions. Maybe a small payment. I bet that the post because "vacant" as soon as Ansom was captured. It would be pretty silly to capture a chief warlord and yet his side still receives his bonus or something. I'm sure as Ansom was take his side lost all of his benefits.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby BCCroaker » Fri May 14, 2010 9:37 pm

Back around when book 1 and the summer updates were finishing, in the 17th of October site news Rob said that he was expecting each new "issue" to be 25 pages. Things have changed somewhat since then, but I don't expect too much of an overrun.

jkosta wrote:That was an awesome update.

As for the people saying it's the end of Book 2... you realize we're on page 32, right? I'm expecting at least another hundred pages.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby HailGreen28 » Fri May 14, 2010 9:38 pm

Love this set of developments. We're already back on the roller coaster ride like the first book. Looks like side a is invincible, next turn side b, next turn side a again....

Now we'll get to see more clever tactics from BOTH sides again. Woohoo!
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby koga305 » Fri May 14, 2010 9:39 pm

Wow. This is another excellent comic. Advanced the plot, satisfied the demands of forumers, was generally awesome, and was amazingly funny.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby warriortribble » Fri May 14, 2010 9:42 pm

Huh... not only does Maggie consider Parson the best candidate for Chief Warlord, she considers his appointment paramount to making sure Wanda and her pliers remain in GW hands. That's... I dunno what that is. Loyalty towards Parson? Strong dislike of Wanda/the decroaked/a unifed Erf?
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Xorbon » Fri May 14, 2010 9:56 pm

regisminae wrote:
Zeku wrote:Also, why is the elephant called Irony? Is this something political?


The irony is that Ford, who in real life was a Republican, is being crushed by a vengeful elephant, which has long been used to represent the Republican Party.

I'm not lucid enough to start to ponder whether or not the LFN's color scheme is intended to be significant, though.


Thanks for putting the 2 together! I didn't see it.

The red, while, and blue colors are obvious. But the green and pink? Not so obvious. (Or possibly just filler colors.)
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby million zillion » Fri May 14, 2010 10:11 pm

regisminae wrote:The irony is that Ford, who in real life was a Republican, is being crushed by a vengeful elephant, which has long been used to represent the Republican Party.

I'm not lucid enough to start to ponder whether or not the LFN's color scheme is intended to be significant, though.


The overall pattern resembles the modern Republican party logo.

And are those cat-tchotchkes in panel 2... toying with the GK troops? :twisted:
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Rosa Vernal » Fri May 14, 2010 10:14 pm

Did Stanley just appoint Parson to Chief Warlord, or did he just put him in overall control and decide to bugger off to get food?

He didn't say "you ARE the Chief again", he said "you BE Chief again". Semantics, I know, but worthy of baseless speculation. We need more of that.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Nebulious » Fri May 14, 2010 10:15 pm

I'm surprised no one has picked up that the Suggestion Dust is another sneaky item from Wanda's Chekhov Stash.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby BarGamer » Fri May 14, 2010 10:18 pm

Nebulious wrote:I'm surprised no one has picked up that the Suggestion Dust is another sneaky item from Wanda's Chekhov Stash.


Wanda probably got it from Maggie's stash. I wonder what Parson is gonna do, now that Ford and his stack are gone...
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby multilis » Fri May 14, 2010 10:19 pm

warriortribble wrote:Huh... not only does Maggie consider Parson the best candidate for Chief Warlord, she considers his appointment paramount to making sure Wanda and her pliers remain in GW hands. That's... I dunno what that is. Loyalty towards Parson? Strong dislike of Wanda/the decroaked/a unifed Erf?

That can be argued. Parson not chief warlord and he is muddled up by choices of others - Stanley, Wanda and everyone else "help" make decisons, eg pick next warlord, leave Ansom behind.

Maggie wanted the room cleared so he would feel responsible and be focused on tactics rather than ducking responsibility and spending much of his energy trying to convince others to follow his ideas. (Parson doesn't want to be responsible for mass death and destruction)

As well Maggie probably heard through sizemore that predictomancer said when things would become a mess and Parson then *had* to be made chief rather than other choices. (Every choice Parson was giving for CW would really have been Wanda as CW looking to Parson for *partial* help)
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby CorrTerek » Fri May 14, 2010 10:23 pm

Also, why is the elephant called Irony? Is this something political?


You've never heard the phrase "crushing irony"? Though good catch on the Republican symbolism there as well -- looks like there was more than one joke in that simple line.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby million zillion » Fri May 14, 2010 10:25 pm

multilis wrote:(Every choice Parson was giving for CW would really have been Wanda as CW looking to Parson for *partial* help)


Good point - the other choices were all decrypted warlords, and directly loyal to Wanda as far as we know. This is the only way to make Parson's ideas actually count, bonus or not.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby The Minx » Fri May 14, 2010 10:45 pm

"May I give you a suggestion"

As in a "suggestion" spell, not advice. She probably needed permission to cast a spell on her Lord. Nicely done. :D
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby dgorn » Fri May 14, 2010 10:51 pm

Yeah, I'm not really sure why Maggie thought that the best possible CW right now is Parson. The obvious downside, pointed out by Parson, is that Wanda's group doesn't get a CW bonus (correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that a group only gets the chief warlord bonus if the chief warlord is with the group, no?).

It is that Maggie thinks that Wanda will disobey Parson unless he outranks her? To date, Wanda's never directly ignored Parson's advice. Only once has she even twisted it slightly, by capturing/killing Ossamer as her way of "gathering intelligence". No one in GK knows that she directly overruled Ansom when he was chief warlord. Though maybe they suspected it as soon as she flew off without him.

Maybe she doesn't think it matters who is chief warlord? Maybe her only goal was to get Stanley to leave the room so Parson can be at his best? And maybe she thought that there was no way she could "suggest" Stanley into leaving unless he was leaving his Chief Warlord directing the fight?

But any way you slice it, I just don't see how Maggie, as smart as she is, could have come to the conclusion that it was in Stanley's best interest to appoint Parson. Though I imagine that Parson will make Maggie explain herself sooner rather than later, so we probably won't have very long to wait to get an answer. Hopefully we'll get it in the next text update.

Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but since GKs turn ended early, Maggie probably has a lot of juice left. Plenty to manage high-bandwidth think-a-grams between Parson and Wanda, letting him be very hands on directing this battle.
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Dancing Cthulhu » Fri May 14, 2010 10:59 pm

That first panel made me laugh. Heh, "Crush, Irony!". If only Ford had been saying "oh, the ignominy of it all" before the cut to being killed off screen and all. But who on earth cut his leg off!? I want to know, it doesn't seem like Trem or Antium did it. I'm hoping it was I. Brows. Or maybe that female warlord/knight who some people wondered might have had a thing with Oss.

Anyway - Woo Trem, looks like his force utterly dominated in the battle there and Ford's plans were for naught (maybe a lower level warlord bit the dust, but it doesn't look like it), all in all a good result. And are those decrypted running away from or running towards the battle? And I wonder where 20 is.

And squashed Spidew made me laugh as well. And Parson's detailed notes on the pros and cons of the potential CWs. All that work for nothing - although Stanley actually seemed to be taking them seriously, considering them, before he got Dusted.

Maggie's actions made me lolwut? as well. I guess it is for the good of the side, but it is a very blatant action, even if he did give her permission. I don't know what Janis was on about, Sizemore try and convince Parson to return to the role? Pfff! Maggie knows how to do things.She really is awesome (perhaps a crowning moment of it for her?).

And while this is good for GK in the long run, and maybe their next turn in particular, I'm not sure how useful it is to the situation above Spacerock, since it is they that could use a good Chief Warlord bonus in hex, while Parson has admitted there is little planning they can actually do this turn to get them out of it, it is all about surviving till their next turn. Maybe Maggie is assuming Wanda is lost and is just looking at the long game - if Parson can't salvage this situation it is all the more vital he is in charge after, when Jetstone will have the momentum again.

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That it is and that it did.

gameboy1234 wrote:Righto. It's probably that a side can change Chief Warlords once per turn or so, and with no other restrictions. Maybe a small payment. I bet that the post because "vacant" as soon as Ansom was captured. It would be pretty silly to capture a chief warlord and yet his side still receives his bonus or something. I'm sure as Ansom was take his side lost all of his benefits.


That's what I think as well. You lose a warlord (captured/killed) you loose any bonuses and can replace them. You can also replace a still fine warlord at least once a turn (not multiple times).

doran wrote:I agree, Toolbox Extra maybe?


That would be great, as a new tool I demand it! (pretty please, if it is convenient and wont be any trouble.). :D
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Keldaria » Fri May 14, 2010 11:10 pm

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BRILLIANT!

She even got permission in her own devious way..

I only wonder what if anything will happen if stanley truly figures out what just happened there... alittle part of me does wonder if charlie had anything to do with this, Are we 100% sure that maggie is a Gobwin Knob Unit and not just a thinkamancer on retainer from the magic kingdom? I suspect all along that this was charlie's true intent. Not to save the royals but rather to get parson back to front and center because he finds him interesting and the key to all this. I mean if we think about it, charlie's given goal was to croak ansom which would've forced stanley to choose another chief warlord anyways.

I see several well places threads coming neatly and tidily together into a seamless tapestry that is erfworld. Well played
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Re: Book 2 – Page 32

Postby Nargrakhan » Fri May 14, 2010 11:34 pm

Lord Parson has returned: LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!! :twisted:
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