The Battle for the Orgchart Wastelands

[LTDave]

I think that all the above aside, our biggest problem in the last game was not having an all-ranged stack with our advance column. If we'd had just one big stack of archers, we wouldn't have lost the Outriders. The Dwagons wouldn't ahve dared to enter the hex, they'd have been shot to bits.

What is the official costing formula for scouts, now?

Remember guys, this is all play-testing - we won't know pros and cons till the game actually gets going. Go easy on the GM.

[Nihila]

What is the official costing formula for scouts, now?

{5+.5[Hits+(Attack*.5*Defense)]}

Remember guys, this is all play-testing - we won't know pros and cons till the game actually gets going. Go easy on the GM.

Sorry, who's going easy on whom!? I am being at least as mean as all of you guys!

And, LTDave, in your first post, the Shield Ogre is listed with "0 SPECIAL", but it has siege. That should give it 15 SPECIAL, as its Attack is 15.

[Twoy]

Stack 1: Faun Archers x 5, Mole x 2, King Edmund. Cost=238.
Stack 2: Minotaurs x 1, Badger x 4, Faun Archers x 1, Sir Badger. Cost=260.
2 points left.

[zilfallon]

Nihila, i know about the move thing. It was 2 in the post because it wasn't clear if Agrach would get them. Soon i'll make it 3 and update him.

[LTDave]

0x Infantry 4 HITS 6 ATTACK 4 DEFENCE 2 MOVE 0 SPECIAL {none} 11 EACH COST
10x Archer 4 HITS 6 ATTACK 4 DEFENCE 2 MOVE 6 SPECIAL {ranged} 17 EACH COST
2x Scout 4 HITS 6 ATTACK 4 DEFENCE 4 MOVE 19 SPECIAL {scout, ranged} 34 EACH COST
2x Captain 6 HITS 8 ATTACK 5 DEFENCE 2 MOVE 28 SPECIAL {commander, ranged} 45 EACH COST
3x Gun Ogre 12 HITS 15 ATTACK 5 DEFENCE 2 MOVE 15 SPECIAL {ranged} 55 EACH COST

493 spent, 7 spare.

I've decided to go with all ranged units, just for fun.
Captain-General Genericus returns, with his ordinary associate, Captain Ordinarius.

[LTDave]

And I still can't see the map. Can someone help me out with that?

[Nihila]

Oh. I thought I posted a link to that. Here it is again.
Link: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3221/battleforsomewhere.png
Image:

[Nihila]

Okay, some bookkeeping stuff. Commander Levels:
Generican Captain Ordinarius: Lv. 2.0
Generican Captain-General Genericus: Lv. 3.2
Siralus's Commanders may or may not be returning, we'll wait for him to start.
Nawnian King Edmund: Lv. 4.1--I know that Edmund won at least 1 Combat, so I'll assume 4.1 for now.
Nawnian Sir Badger: Lv. 1.0
Avewnus Commander Agrach: Lv. 5.1--I know that Agrach won at least 1 Combat, so I'll assume 5.1 for now.

The 3.2 for Genericus comes right from LTDave, but I'm a little uncertain on Edmund and Agrach. If you guys don't mind a little digging around, can you point me to other times when they won combats?

[Twoy]

My records show that King Edmund is 4.1.

Zilfallon: You can have the Mirror, Sword and Shield and also the Hat of Weightlessness if it will help with your design of Agrach and Hellflame Dwakes.

[LTDave]

OK, are we ready to go yet?

By the looks of that map we are definitely going to need some Siege. Did anyone buy some?

[zilfallon]

no need for the hat, twoy. i'm not going to bring any air since i want to have archers and siege available.

Also, my first post about units is now confirmed and ready to go.

[Nihila]

Still waiting on zil to pick his units, I'll start with... 900 deployed points, 300 more if Siralus joins in. Once zil posts his starting units, your scout phase starts.

[zilfallon]

1 x Imp
1 x Abyssal Cannon
7 x Cownugon
Commander Agrach (Level 5, "Mirror, Sword and Shield")

Total:499 pts
1 point left.

[Twoy]

Below are our Scouts. Correct me if I'm wrong. Moles have scout range of 3 or 5 along a road. Generic Scouts have scout range of 6 or 8 along a road. Imps have a scout range of 8 with no bonus for roads.

Mole x 2
Move: 2 Scout 3
Hits: 5
Att: 8 Ranged
Def: 5
Cost: 40

Scout x 2
Move: 4 Scout 6
Hits: 4
Att: 6 Ranged
Def: 4
Cost: 34

Imp x 1
Move: 5 Scout 8 Flight
Hits: 1
Att: 1
Def: 0
Cost: 12

[Nihila]

Twoy is correct about the scouts.

[Twoy]

Is our starting point A1?

[Nihila]

Yes, you start at A1, my units start wherever I feel like starting them.

[Twoy]

Proposed Turn 1 Scout Orders:
Generic Scout 1: A2, B2, C3, D3, E4, E5, F5, G6.
Generic Scout 2: A2, A3, A4, B4, C4, D4.
Imp 1: B1, C1, D1, E1, E2, E3, F2, F1.
Mole 1: A2, A3, B3.
Mole 2: B1, C2, D2.

[zilfallon]

good. we should use imps to scout terrain which has high move penalty to take advantage of their flight ability.

Also, a reminder: let's not forget about "special retaliation" rule when marching our forces.

[LTDave]

I like the proposed scout plan.
My question is about terrain and scouting - it costs 2 to scout woods for infantry, yes?

Also, where is the line between infantry and cavalry? My scouts may be cavalry because of their move, limiting their scouting capacity in swamps, etc.