Book 2 – Page 47

[Ansan Gotti]

Long time Lurker (since the first page of the comic over at OOTS actually), but just wanted to chuck this in as I missed anyone else saying it:
Crap.
Golems.
Sizemore.

OK, I am going to fully admit that I now have no idea what the crap is going to happen.

I do think the above would be REALLY cool, however.

[robak]

Acidic Battle Crap Golems!

[Archameades]

I think I'm starting to like Ossomer more all the time. In a, kind of, devoted to service kind of way. Apparently, Ansom was promoted over him.. and now Parson, but he carries on anyway. I would love to see him turn from this, proving that there's only so much a unit will endure against their nature. Notice without flinching he refers to his brother as "Prince Tramennis".

Also, I think halfway through sacking the city, it would be nice to see Tramennis organize a withdrawl and non-aggression treaty to preserve his side. This would keep those powerful casters away from Parson, since we can't make things too easy for him.

[kineticdragon]

If the archer shoot at the dragons while they make the descent under whats left of the glass roof, does that mean they count as being attacked and can now fire back. If so can they choose there targets, say the garrison units right below them?

[Roketter]

I think Parson only plans to go trough the portal IF Ossomer falls, since they'll need someone to replace his bonus. Still it's almost imposible for Ossomer to survive when Jetstone notices thei'r doing the dookie right under their noses.

THer's no screening, cover, or anything, Ossomer will just croak in a few seconds. Also his dwagon is much further away from the roof and closer to archers.

So Parson will be in Jetstone in a few panels mos likely!

So the dwagons will go trough the hole and wreak havoc among inantery while the archers can't hit them cuz they don't have acidic poop to make their own holes... the only way to fight them would be going down the stairs, at wich point they'd loose (melee range). Add decryption to that and it's overkill.

[Khundes]

Another question that wasn't raised by the topic yet:

Where in that huge fort is the Portal? I expect this garrison breach will move all combat units away from the portal to let Parson move in and destroy the leadership. Though joining Wanda and Parson's forces might also be a likely outcome.

[build6]

So. Acidic crap from dwagons it is. Good call

I think how Tramennis is going about trying to argue with Ossomer is really pretty good. I was all "!!!!" when he started saying he'd demand to meet Parson, until the last panel when I realised that Parson'd already kicked things into gear - they're going to be meeting up only at swordpoint (if at all).

You gotta admit, though, that Tramennis has a point about Parson being low when the first move is to begin crapping all over the place...

Man, this is one of those stories where there are guys on BOTH sides you really don't want to lose... arggggh

I think Parson only plans to go trough the portal IF Ossomer falls, since they'll need someone to replace his bonus. Still it's almost imposible for Ossomer to survive when Jetstone notices thei'r doing the dookie right under their noses.

THer's no screening, cover, or anything, Ossomer will just croak in a few seconds. Also his dwagon is much further away from the roof and closer to archers.

Actually, I think the minute Parson promoted himself, Ossomer's bonus was lost, so at least that doesn't matter whether or not he dies.

Also, it's possible they won't croak Ossomer - just capture him. I mean, he is their son/brother. Plus they definitely want to find out (over time - they certainly aren't expecting to lose) whether it's possible to turn decrypted (heck, Parson'd want to know too)

On an interesting side-note, I just got the best sleep-deprived, caffeine-induced hallucination ever (there's a reason for my tag, I guess)- Ossomer, in the second panel, just turned his head to look out of the page as I was scrolling down. I actually had to scroll back up to check it wasn't a flash animation embedded in the page, but no turns out I'm just crazy...

You'd better hope you're not the next guy sucked into Erfworld Maybe non-Janis-affiliated casters in MK are working on a spell to counter Parson, who's really starting to worry them now

[Miasmark]

this would be a good time for somebody to break out into that elvis song "A Little Less Conversation"

[DevilDan]

Please, please tell me there won't be any sort of slowdown due to the holidays! I cannot wait for this to go down.

[Pointyleaf]

If the archer shoot at the dragons while they make the descent under whats left of the glass roof, does that mean they count as being attacked and can now fire back. If so can they choose there targets, say the garrison units right below them?

I don't think the dragons can fire back - it's not they're turn, so their attacks won't cross the boundary. But falling attacks (like battlecrap) still fall, no matter whose turn it is.

It's all the ground troops that don't have missile weapons. They were specifically ordered to hang out in the courtyard under the glass roof so they would be "safe" from aerial attacks.

Yeah, where'd the glass roof go, anyway?

http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/ ... -06-20.png

[Ditto]

I'm not sure GK units could attack archers, even if fired upon. They are still in a different zone from the dwagons (from the dwagons' perspective). If a unipegataur flew over and punch one, that's different. But it seems like archers get to exploit the 'city is all one zone for defenders' rule and shoot anywhere in the city, while enemy forces can only attack somewhere that they could move to - and off-turn, that means nowhere.

[Kizmet]

hmm...

Godzilla sized Acid Crap Golem... goes BOOM?

for reference that crap golems can explode: http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F126.jpg

[Ansan Gotti]

MAJOR ART KUDOS, by the way. I especially loved panels, 9, 10 and 11, specifically how in panel 9 they are locked in verbal combat, and in panel 10, Ossomer leans back while Tramennis leans forward, having clearly scored a point. And the way they're looking at the dwagon poop with curious disgust in panel 11. Fantastic job!

[the_tick_rules]

All right! Let's get this master plan started! I like the dookie effect.

[effataigus]

I'm curious what happened to the glass ceiling as well.

Upon rereading the old text update that mentioned the glass ceiling I noticed that it said "smoked glass." Tinted windows can look opaque when the outside is much brighter than the inside... perhaps this is what is happening here?

EDIT [Keeping this in despite it being wrong (because it was quoted). I confused pronunciation with spelling:] Also, just noticed what I think is a typo glass-ceiling text update. "Just deserts" should be "just desserts," probably. Unless it's a pun I'm too thick to pick up on.

Finally, I almost hyperventilated when google reader told me that there was another Erfworld update in such short order. Another good one (great expressions, great dialogue, nice to see things getting ramped up). My Monday and Tuesday have both been made! Thanks!

[name lips]

I'm thinking this:

1) dwagons collapse roof. While the dwagons crap counts as an attack and can't hurt the ground troops, the falling chunks of the roof can. Collapsing the roof should kill or incapcitate a good number of the ground troops.

2) dwagons and riders enter the garrison's airspace

3) can Wanda decrypt across the zone boundry? Probably not. So now she and Jack need to exploit the falling mechanic. They already have healing scrolls in hand to repair the damage they take.

4) Wanda insta-decrypts the ground troops.

5) if it didn't happen already, shouldn't the city count as captured once the garrison is taken? Shouldn't shackles instantly appear on all enemy troops? If not, the new decrypted army will exit the garrison and slaughter the undefended archers.

If this works as intended, Parson won't need to do his portal trick. I figure Trem's jetpack will be a surprise, as will (potentially) Ossimer turning. So things will probably go wrong at some point, necessitating Parson's arrival.

[barawn]

as will (potentially) Ossimer turning. So things will probably go wrong at some point, necessitating Parson's arrival.

There's no way Ossomer should turn. Ansom hated Parson, and was, well, killed due to his treachery. And yet he still was following Parson around initially trying to be his lackey, with Wanda's approval. Ossomer might dislike Parson and Parson's plans - so did Ansom - but this seems way, way, way too little to cause Ossomer to turn. If it's even possible.

[Ansan Gotti]

I think it's clear from the past text update and the graphics that the glass ceiling is to either the left or right of the roof displayed in this update, where the dwagons are doing their business. The displayed roof is probably part of the surrounding level 5 garrison building that the text update described.

And I think I do recall from past updates that once you take the garrison, the city falls.

EDIT: Spacerock has no dungeon, but has a tower and what I presume qualifies as a "courtyard." So both need to be taken for the overall "garrison" to fall, I believe. So I'm guessing the dwagons will fall and take the courtyard, and then the reds and blues will breathe and destroy the tower. But right before they do, Tramennis will grab the jetpack from Ace and hightail it back to Jetstone's original capital after having been promoted to Heir by Slately thanks to credits supplied by Charlie for dead archons.

[dmorenus]

I'm curious what happened to the glass ceiling as well.

Upon rereading the old text update that mentioned the glass ceiling I noticed that it said "smoked glass." Tinted windows can look opaque when the outside is much brighter than the inside... perhaps this is what is happening here?

Those sure look like shingles to me. In particular you can see the staggered races of the shingles indicated by the faint seam lines in the picture.

Also, just noticed what I think is a typo glass-ceiling text update. "Just deserts" should be "just desserts," probably. Unless it's a pun I'm too thick to pick up on.

"Just deserts" refers to what someone deserves, not an after-dinner treat.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/just-deserts.html

[effataigus]

I think it's clear from the past text update and the graphics that the glass ceiling is to either the left or right of the roof displayed in this update, where the dwagons are doing their business. The displayed roof is probably part of the surrounding level 5 garrison building that the text update described.

And I think I do recall from past updates that once you take the garrison, the city falls.

Recall that:

http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=/116a.jpg

"Garrison zone has 3 parts: tower, courtyard, and dungeon."

Therefore to take the garrison, GK has to take the courtyard (the glass atrium and the surrounding buildings), the dungeon (EDIT this is wrong: Spacerock doesn't have one /EDIT), and the tower (with Slately and Tram in it). I'm pretty sure if GK takes all three of these, then Jetstone is either already neutral or Slately is learning how to use a jetpack the hard, fast, and fun way.

"Just deserts" refers to what someone deserves, not an after-dinner treat.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/just-deserts.html

Aha, my bad... I need to do more exhaustive google searching before I open my mouth. Thanks!

Also, yes, they look like shingles to me as well, which is why I'm curious where the glass-ceilinged atrium went. Just off-screen?