Book 2 – Page 47

[gameboy1234]

Oh yeah! Takin' a dookie on the enemy!

If Wanda can decrypt units that have been burned by lava, can she decrypt the organic components of dragon poop?

I don't think so. Reanimating crap is Sizemore's specialty. It seems unlikely that the rules of Erfworld would allow two magical spheres to overlap so closely.

[fjolnir]

The Klog goes on to mention that you can then attack anyplace freely once you hold a zone. Basically they're playing a very simple numbers game, wherein since the melee units have a penalty to hit vs air units and the dwagons are in airspace as long as they don't hit the ground, the archers won't shoot much in order to avoid the potential for friendly fire, GK is betting on killing a large enough melee force to hold off the archers from the tower when they move down to attack from the courtyard.

[Dr Pepper]

Dookie! The attack begins. Presumably this opening move is meant as a diversion,

[Fnsteve]

What are those winged creatures in the background between tramenis and slately's head?

[TMZ_Cinoros]

It appears that I was hasty in my earlier post. I had completely forgotten about the scene from book one where Charlie's Archons ended turn in the Airspace of Gobwin Knob. They were unable to engage any unit that was not in Gobwin Knob's Airspace. Breath attacks probably wouldn't work while the units are up in the air. The Atrium's building probably counts as being on the ground.

So, it looks like the fall and decrypt strategy is the only thing that will let the dwagon armada attack the ground. Perhaps I shouldn't post at 2 AM in the morning.

I think I should probably edit the wiki and add the information from text update 25, to mention that a courtyard can be enclosed in a building instead of the garrison walls, and that such a zone is called an atrium by Jetstone. This is kind of important information missing from the wiki.

Therefore to take the garrison, GK has to take the courtyard (the glass atrium and the surrounding buildings), the dungeon (Spacerock doesn't have one), and the tower (with Slately and Tram in it). I'm pretty sure if GK takes all three of these, then Jetstone is either already neutral or Slately is learning how to use a jetpack the hard, fast, and fun way.

Actually, Spacerock does have a dungeon. It just does not have any tunnels.

Most Level 5 cities were designed with some unique or augmented feature. Some designs emphasized outer walls or tower or tunnel structures, often at the expense of other parts of the city. Spacerock had dungeons, but no tunnel zone at all. Instead, it had an unusually ornate and well-defended Garrison. Its outer structure was not merely a wall, but a full twelve-story palace complex of rooms and chambers.

[name lips]

Since Spacerock has no dungeon, that means the portal to the Magic Kingdom is somewhere in the Tower or Garrison.

I know that's obvious, but I just realized it. That means Parson would be able to rejoin his allies very quickly once he arrives on the scene. He might not need to do any solo fighting at all.

[fjolnir]

What are those winged creatures in the background between tramenis and slately's head?

Still unipegataurs...

[mortissimus]

I think it's clear from the past text update and the graphics that the glass ceiling is to either the left or right of the roof displayed in this update, where the dwagons are doing their business. The displayed roof is probably part of the surrounding level 5 garrison building that the text update described.

Also, yes, they look like shingles to me as well, which is why I'm curious where the glass-ceilinged atrium went. Just off-screen?

From the picture from within the garrison and today's update I think it is clear that the glass ceiling is magical. From the inside it is glass and from the outside it looks like shingles. Foolamancy well spent.

Either that or there will be a retconjuration.

[Archameades]

When the acidic battle cwap really hits the fan. Isn't it possible for Slately to choose to raze one of his outlying cities and promote Tramennis; rather than leave his side heir-less? He hasn't yet, because he expected to win the initial attack and the time between the veil being lifted and Jillian ending GK's turn was pretty thin. At least that's my prediction for this 15 minute time segment. We'll see what I think after lunch...

[effataigus]

Actually, Spacerock does have a dungeon. It just does not have any tunnels.

Most Level 5 cities were designed with some unique or augmented feature. Some designs emphasized outer walls or tower or tunnel structures, often at the expense of other parts of the city. Spacerock had dungeons, but no tunnel zone at all. Instead, it had an unusually ornate and well-defended Garrison. Its outer structure was not merely a wall, but a full twelve-story palace complex of rooms and chambers.

Ah, good catch! My bad yet again. On a roll today.

[build6]

When the acidic battle cwap really hits the fan. Isn't it possible for Slately to choose to raise one of his outlying cities and promote Tramennis; rather than leave his side heir-less?

I think he hasn't got the money - and Charlie's "bounty" hasn't been paid to them yet

[TMZ_Cinoros]

What are those winged creatures in the background between tramenis and slately's head?

Those are Unipegataurs.

Since Spacerock has no dungeon, that means the portal to the Magic Kingdom is somewhere in the Tower or Garrison.

The Tower is in the Garrison. Perhaps you meant Tower or Dungeon?

Just so everyone is on the same page, the Garrison is composed of the Tower (borders airspace), the Courtyard (which in this case is called the Atrium since it is enclosed by a building, and it borders the Outer Walls city zone), and the Dungeon (which normally borders the tunnels, but Spacerock has no tunnels, and Spacerock NEEDs no tunnels!). This is explained here: http://www.erfworld.com/wiki/index.php/City_Zones.

[robak]

That means, once they hit the floor, they are in the garrison zone, within which they can move freely. That is once they fell down into the atrium part of the zone, they can walk up to the tower.

[decius]

Why is defecating considered an attack? Just because it falls?

This is certainly a crappy way to act during parley.

Fall/heal and/or fall/decrypt is clearly the way to go... is there any precedent for units killed and decrypted to GK on their turn crossing hexes post-decrypt? If 'move goes to zero at the end of the turn', then wouldn't the decrypted have their full allotment of move, since their turn hasn't ended yet?

Ansom got dismounted during the Battle of Gobwin Knob, but was still fighting on the ground enough to escape with little assistance. Wanda got blasted and fell at the same time, and became mortally wounded. Bogroll survived longer than Ansom did during his second fall; he had enough time to level. I can't find enough precedent to support either 'The dwagons and riders will die if they fall' or 'The dwagons and riders will be combat-effective if they fall.'

Odds on Charlie contacting Parson: "What are the current odds that Jetstone will hold Spacerock at the end of this turn?"

[valce]

Is that the courtyard roof burning in the last panel? I can't tell if the dwagons are hovering over the building in the foregroun or just past it, but there looks to be a chunk of roof missing.

[Archameades]

I think he hasn't got the money - and Charlie's "bounty" hasn't been paid to them yet

As far as I remember from a text update; that I don't have time to look for right now. Didn't Slately already raze one of his outlying cities for Shmuckers?

[rughat]

<tinfoil hat>
Everyone is assuming that the dragons are crapping, while everyone is waiting right there to be shot by archers. I point out one important fact:

There is a master-class foolimancer in the hex.

Perhaps they fell already, veiled as the falling crap, and left a flight of illusionary dragons to take the hail of arrows?

</tinfoil hat>

[OneHugeTuck]

I find it interesting that all the dragons can be commanded to crap on command, simultaneously. Hell of a party trick.

I wonder how much ammo they have/contain.....

[BLANDCorporatio]

**** is getting real.

Wait, can I say **** on TV? (post not modded, if you were wondering. Self-censorship, yay!)

<tinfoil hat>
Everyone is assuming that the dragons are crapping, while everyone is waiting right there to be shot by archers. I point out one important fact:

There is a master-class foolimancer in the hex.

Perhaps they fell already, veiled as the falling crap, and left a flight of illusionary dragons to take the hail of arrows?

</tinfoil hat>

I like the idea. Crappy disguise though.

[Chit Rule Railroad]

If Trammenis "sheltered" the battle bears in the Atrium, we might see them participating in tearing down the tower after Wanda decrypts them.