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[LTDave]

No, points earned this turn from Cwoakamancy will have to wait until next turn to be spent.

[tigerusthegreat]

2 more questions:

1. If I upgrade my pikers with a commander next turn, will they be able to move that turn.

2. If I upgrade them with a dirtamancy commander, would be be able to build walls that turn.

[BLANDCorporatio]

Hmm. Those remaining archers are ripe for the picking, but cannot attack them yet, not without going after the other stacks.

Which I think that right now (since I'm not allowed to use the newly popped Steam Planes) is not a good idea.

However, I can provide some air cover for the Siege.

So, stack of {Diwi, Steam Plane, L1 Scout, Lord Wivingston} flies to where Queen Jadis is. We should have something like 2 or 3 stacks there, right?

[LTDave]

The rules are not clear, but I'm going to say "No."
COmmanders and Scouts popped cannot move the turn they are popped, nor may they use their abilities (Dirtamancy, for example).

[Twoy]

If you could move your stack back to D3, Saruham, that would give us a better defense.

[LTDave]

Ferrrr-Duuurrrppp!

The Alliance Turn 3 has ended. The Gobwin Bump turn has now begun.

Ending position of Alliance Units:

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Isenlard
Stack B
Saruham the White Meat {Cwoakamancer/Dittomancer} Lvl 2.2
8 Uruk-Ham Archers
Scout Lvl 1
Stack A
1 Bacon-rog
Stack G
8 Uruk-Ham Pikers

Steam Gentlemen
Stack C
Stack: Diwigible, Steam plane, (Scout Lvl 1, Wivingston Lvl 1.1)
Stack I
2 Steam Planes

Evil Imagination Land
Stack E
2 Manbearpig
commander Freddy Creuger Lvl 2
Stack F
1 Manbearpig
1 Christmas Critter - 12
level 4 scout - 160

Nawnia
Stack D
8 x Dwarf Siege Cost 272
Scout 2 Cost
Queen Jadis the Cwoakamancer Cost Lvl 5.1

Stack H
3 Centaurs

Which means Saruham and his Archers are alone in Gobwins' Hollow. Interesting.

Attack!

Gobwin Stack "S" 8 Spidew Riders 72 hits, 40 attack, 32 Defence
ENGAGE
Saruham's 8 Archers 80 hits, 40 attack, 40 defence (Dittomancy)

FIGHT!

[LTDave]

And Dagnibbit, these Gobwins are still struggling with the complexities of the combat system.

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COMBAT!
Battle is joined in hex: D3
TIME OF POST (in minutes and seconds): 1223
Attacker:
Total Attack Value: 40
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 32
Level of Highest Commander: 0
Special Bonus: 0.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 50%

Hits Inflicted on Defender: -20

Defender:
Total Attack Value: 40
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 40
Total Terrain & Walls Defence: 0
Level of Highest Commander: 2
Special Bonus: 1.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 60%

Hits Inflicted on Attacker: 28

No Archers cwoaked.
3 Spidew Riders cwoaked, and one with 1/9 hits remaining. The Spidew Riders remain in the hex.

Right, time to bring out some "Big" guns.

A Stack of Dwagons enters Gobwin's Hollow from the North East.
Gobwin Stack "W" 2 King Dwagon, 6 Dwagon, Scout 4, Commander Lvl 4 (Rockin' Out), Commander Lvl 3. 102 Hits, 70 Attack, 32 Defence
ENGAGE
Saruham's 8 Archers 80 hits, 40 attack, 40 defence (Dittomancy)

FIGHT!

{edited for Commander Levels}

[LTDave]

Into the valley of Death flew the 8!

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COMBAT!
Battle is joined in hex: D3
TIME OF POST (in minutes and seconds): 3958
Attacker:
Total Attack Value: 70
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 32
Level of Highest Commander: 4
Special Bonus: 1.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 50%

Hits Inflicted on Defender: 44

Defender:
Total Attack Value: 40
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 40
Total Terrain & Walls Defence: 0
Level of Highest Commander: 2
Special Bonus: 1.0
Trump Bonus: 1.0
Random Percentage: 90%

Hits Inflicted on Attacker: 38

4 Uruk-Ham Archers cwoaked, 1 with 6/10 hits remaining.
1 King Dwagon cwoaked, and 1 with 4/21 hits remaining.

The Dwagons leave the hex to the North East.

[Twoy]

Shouldn't that be 4/21 remaining on the King Dwagon?

[LTDave]

And time to stick in the boot.

Gobwin Stack "R" 7 Gobwin Archers 49 Hits, 28 Attack, 21 Defence
ENGAGE
Saruham's Archer Stack {ONE SHOT WONDER}

FIGHT!

[LTDave]

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COMBAT!
Battle is joined in hex: D3
TIME OF POST (in minutes and seconds): 5045
Attacker:
Total Attack Value: 28
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 21
Level of Highest Commander: 0
Special Bonus: 0.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 80%

Hits Inflicted on Defender: 22

Defender:
Total Attack Value: 0
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 0
Total Terrain & Walls Defence: 0
Level of Highest Commander: 2
Special Bonus: 1.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 70%

Hits Inflicted on Attacker: -16

2 more Archers cwoaked. 1 with 4/10 hits remaining

[LTDave]

Shouldn't that be 4/21 remaining on the King Dwagon?

Good Point. Fixed in Edit.

I'm tempted to let Saruham live, just to show I'm a good sport. But that would leave my wounded King Dwagon vulnerable, so I can't.

Gobwin Stack "X" 1 Twoll Stabbers, 6 Gobwin Stabbers, Commander Lv 2
ENGAGE
Saruhams' Archers.

[LTDave]

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COMBAT!
Battle is joined in hex: D3
TIME OF POST (in minutes and seconds): 5516
Attacker:
Total Attack Value: 34
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 29
Level of Highest Commander: 0
Special Bonus: 0.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 40%

Hits Inflicted on Defender: 13

Defender:
Total Attack Value: 0
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 0
Total Terrain & Walls Defence: 0
Level of Highest Commander: 2
Special Bonus: 1.0
Trump Bonus: 0.0
Random Percentage: 70%

Hits Inflicted on Attacker: -11

But it isn't enough. 1 Archer cwoaked, with the final one having 1/10 hits remaining! Saruham survives. Can you credit it?

That concludes the Gobwin Bump Turn. Give me a few minutes to update the map, and then the Alliance turn can start.

[Twoy]

Saruham leveled before the King Dwagons attacked. Should be 2/21 for the surviving King Dwagon.

Isenlard picks up 127 pop points from Cwoakamancy. Saruham is level 3.0.

[LTDave]

Ferrr-Duuurrrp!

Turn 3 Map and Scout Results:

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Gobwin Stacks

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R 7 Gobwin Archers 49 Hits, 28 Attack, 21 Defence
S 5 Spidew Riders 45 Hits, 25 Attack, 20 Defence
V 6 Gobwin Stabbers 48 Hits, 24 Attack, 24 Move
W 1 King Dwagon (2/21), 6 Dwagon, Scout 4, Commander Lvl 4 (Rockin' Out), Commander Lvl 3. 102 Hits, 70 Attack, 32 Defence
X 1 Twoll Stabbers, 6 Gobwin Stabbers, Commander Lv 2 63 Hits, 34 attack, 29 Defence,
Y 4 Spidew Riders 36 Hits, 20 Attack, 16 Defence
Gobwins' Hollow is a level 1 City with a 0 point wall.

Alliance Stacks

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Isenlard
Stack B
Saruham the White Meat {Cwoakamancer/Dittomancer} Lvl 3
1 Uruk-Ham Archers (1/10 hits)
Scout Lvl 1
Stack A
1 Bacon-rog
Stack G
8 Uruk-Ham Pikers

Steam Gentlemen
Stack C
Stack: Diwigible, Steam plane, (Scout Lvl 1, Wivingston Lvl 1.1)
Stack I
2 Steam Planes

Evil Imagination Land
Stack E
2 Manbearpig
commander Freddy Creuger Lvl 2
Stack F
1 Manbearpig
1 Christmas Critter - 12
level 4 scout - 160

Nawnia
Stack D
8 x Dwarf Siege Cost 272
Scout 2 Cost
Queen Jadis the Cwoakamancer Cost Lvl 5.1

Stack H
3 Centaurs

The Alliance Turn 3 has now begun. Each player receives 60 points + cwoakamancy + what's left from last turn.

Players have 96 hours to post their turns (in fact 97, because Day Light Savings ends for us down under tonight). So the Alliance Turn will end on Wednesday, 10:15am, Australia Eastern Time (which is what, 0015 GMT?).

Cheers

{Edited for Twoy's corrections. Good work, Twoy. Can you spot my creative error to the Alliance's Favour? Cheers}

[Twoy]

I did not spot the creative error, but I believe Jadis should be level 5.2. She should have received one xp for attacking and one xp for defending.

[tigerusthegreat]

I was under the impression that you couldn't keep a stack in the same hex as enemy units, which is why I didn't specify returning to the hex I attacked from. Not going to ask you to change it now though.

Gonna have to think through my move, other than the obvious retreat of Saruham. Could I make a unit of archers then merge them with Saruham's unit at a later time?

[HerbieRai]

Freddy and his manbearpigs attack stack R (archer stack) in E4

COMBAT!!!

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COMBAT!
Battle is joined in hex: E4
TIME OF POST (in minutes and seconds): 347
Attacker:
Total Attack Value: 26
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 24
Level of Highest Commander: 2
Special Bonus: 0.0 {Default is 0}
Trump Bonus: 0.0 {Default is 0}
Random Percentage: 50%

Hits Inflicted on Defender: -5

Defender:
Total Attack Value: 28
Total Defence of Top 8 Units: 21
Total Terrain & Walls Defence: 0
Level of Highest Commander: 0
Special Bonus: 0.0 {Default is 0}
Trump Bonus: 0.0 {Default is 0}
Random Percentage: 30%

Hits Inflicted on Attacker: 2

no hits inflicted on archers. 1 manbearpig is left at 23/25
Stack retreats to D3

popping

60 + 6 left over
4 christmas critters - 48
leaves 18

Stack F moves to D3
Restacking
3 manbearpigs, christmas critter, lvl 4 scout, Freddy Cruger Attack: 45 defense: 38 total hits 81/83

[tigerusthegreat]

Thoughts, guys? I could just retreat Saruham into our stack, but then he just dies to whatever attacks the stack first. I'm thinking about dropping him back to C4, that way the fliers with 4 move cannot get to me (they'd have to go through our stacks, or waste all their move in the mountains) and then put my bacon-rog onto C3 to stop the spidew riders from attacking Saruham. Next turn, he goes into the base camp, where he can be restacked or have units added to him.

BTW, do I get to spend the croakamancy points I earned during the gobwins turn this turn or next?

If this turn: Looking at 127 + 5 (leftover) + 96+60 = 288, enough for my Dirtamancer commander for my pikers (100) and 7 Uruk-ham archers (133)....one Worg-hog (33) and a Uruk-ham stabber (18 points) = 4 points left

If I can't use them this turn, I'll just spend 100 points on a dirtamancer, buy 3 archers (57) and have 4 left

Team, what do you think of my strategy? I'll probably end up loosing the baconrog, but that's worth saving the lvl 3 commander with croakamancy. Plus if anything takes out the baconrog, they will probably be fodder for our units. Thoughts?

[HerbieRai]

I'd suggest moving the pikers up outside the city where are other units are (D3). Then move your last archer back and make your commander switch to the pikers, leaving the archer by himself. He'll be a very hard target in the stack with the pikers with all our other units around. Then bring up the other commander and reinforcement archers next turn.

The only unit that can reach our base camp are the fliers, and with the siege and diwi next to them (and they both can attack that stack since I attacked the archers) I don't think they'll last the turn.