Wanda Vs. Magic Kingdom

[Roketter]

Well, what do you think ? All she needs is...

1 A bit of luck so the casters don't form a killer mob waiting for her at jetstone's portal
2 A bit more luck to make her pliers make it so that Decrypted casters can cast as if they were alive
3 Decrypts a healomancer first chance she gets so they can't just kill her by punching her hitpoints
4 Decrypt several shockamancers to quickly croak more casters wich will in turn help her croak the rest.
5 Use summoner casters to create even more units so she doesn't have to loose decrypted fighting the casters
6 Crush all remaining survivors and become queen of magic kingdom
7 Raid weakly defended capital cities with casters coming from their portals, burn everything down and decrypt all units she can, leaving a score of ruined cities protected by decrypted so no one claims them.
8 Link mathamancers with predictamancers to predict the exact coordinates where the fourth arkanetool will be found, & get it.
9 Profit!! Now they can deploy casters in all capital sites, predict the outcome of battles, deploy Parson everywhere, develop unique spells and basically turn the world on fire. Also everyone else who needs a caster will need either pop one or find one wandering around the map as a barbarian wich is unlikely. No more magic for anyone else! From here to world domination.

With those advantages, Charlie & his arkanedish would seem a bad joke in comparison.

[No one in particular]

Heck, why bother with all that? Why not just croak and decrypt Parson and be done with it? Stanley might even thank her for it, since it would save him a thousand shmuckers a turn.

[MarbitChow]

This was discussed at some length back in Book 1 days when the pliers were first introduced.

As book 2 points out, we don't know whether casters retain their ability to cast when decrypted yet. If not, Wanda croaks a caster or two for nothing.

Assuming that decryption works on casters, and leaves the caster fully-functional, attacking the Magic Kingdom is still inefficient.
Since GK is rich, a much less risky method is to hire as many casters as you can afford for a single turn.
Place each caster in a separate hex, alone.
Send a troop of dwagons, twoll, golems, etc. through each single-caster hex to kill each caster.
Do not use Wanda or the decrypted casters to attack the non-decrypted casters.
Only use units that are easy to replace, since casters will almost certainly drop a few units each time.
You'll probably need to coordinate attacks so that multiple casters are wiped out at once, so that they don't provide too much warning to the others.

An alternate method would be to simple kill each as they pass through the portal, which might be easier, but if one gets a warning off, the others may stop coming through.

Once this operation is complete, you will have a massive force of decrypted casters who can, on your next turn, go into the Magic Kingdom as a whole and pick up any stragglers.
Depending on the casters you decrypt in Stage 1, you can use multiple tri-mancer links for the assault in State 2:
thinkamancer-lookamancer-foolamancer combo for intel,
thinkamancer-healamancer-naughtymancer combos to heal the decrypted casters as fast as they can be harmed,
thinkamancer-shockamancer-lookamancer for ranged attacked, etc.

You can decimate the remaining casters in MK and decrypt them all. Once all the casters are decrypted, GK is essentially unstoppable.

[spriteless]

This is awesome. It could be the big finish. If it happens, then a few casters escape with the help of Charlie, and he uses the Ultimate Warlord Spell to summon people who know how Parson thinks, and the final book is Parson's old friends gaming against him one more time.

Maybe Charlie saw how vulnerable the Magic Kingdom is, and how vulnerable Sides are through the Portals, ages ago. It would explain why he's so damn paranoid. He grabbed the world by the g-strings because he was afraid someone else would beat him to it. :tinfoilhat:

[the_tick_rules]

it's a bit much to ask her to take on the entire mk.

[Chummer]

Hello ... long time reader first time Posting but something is really bugging me and it is this question

Decryption working on carsters ?

This is a question we have seen ALOT !! bouth in the comic and in every second Forum Reactions index
What i have been wondering about this and i may have just overlooked something is that everybody seem not to be sure if they are able to but at the same time Averybody knows the Archons can cast spells ... they got the carster attrubute and take for granted that they can cast spells. But they too are Decryptes and it makes me wonder if the whole Dissusion about weather the carsters can cast spells are more a dissusion like theres a chance he wont be able to cast spells? (like if there is a 50% chance of losing the magic attribute due to being turned? Like the %chance to survive a fall?)(they would know that if a% of the Archons lost that abillity)

It just seem weird that everyone ponders if they could cast while at the same time giving orders to carst spells to decrypted units? .... is it just me ? ^^ have been looking for a clue on the matter but got lost ... someone help me please =)

back to the post though ^^ Wanda turning against Stanly would be betraying her own mind twice i think.
we have clearly seen her thoughts about parson and the issue about her being a chosen of the titans along with stanly.... she thinks then slipted from the path and i dont think she would try to anger the titans further by backstabbing another "Chosen".

[drachefly]

Archons have natural spell-like abilities. It's not the same thing. That said, I suspect a decrypted caster could cast.

[Roketter]

I think we could very safely assume that caster units can cast their spells.

The reason why there's doubt is that while we've seen archons cast spells, they only have "Limited forms" of several magic types, meaning they could be units with "spell like abilities" and without an actual "spellbook". We don't even know if they have juice.

But still decryption is the ultimate super-uncroaking spell. If it couldn't make casters keep their magic then it would make it be a bit less than perfect. And it's suposedly a spell casted by an arkanetool, from the titans who created Erfworld with their power. Just because Parson and Stanley want to play safe about decrypting their own faction's mages it doesn't mean ther's any reason at all not to expect it to work perfectly on casters.

[drachefly]

I think we could very safely assume that caster units can cast their spells.

Not knowing was a significant plot point, earlier - remember?

[Roketter]

Yes, but i think it decrypted unit's spells not working would make Wanda less of a threat to erfworld than she is, wich won't fit in with the plot so well...

I mean if she couldn't take casters magic by decrypting them then it would mean that magic kingdom would definitely have the advantage over her. If the worst happens and it looks like she'll take the whole world or attacks magic kingdom, then they could just swarm trough all the portals aiding all factions for free and form massive links to raise volcanoes, call comets and tornadoes and turn all her decrypted to dust. The solution to the decryption problem would be right there.

But if she can decrypt them and their magic the casters ought to be more carefull since whomever croaks fighting her ends up joining her.

Wanda obviously believes it will work just fine or else she wouldn't have proposed to decrypt Jack (She might have let him die instead if she wanted to keep the scrolls)

[Housellama]

Yes, but i think it decrypted unit's spells not working would make Wanda less of a threat to erfworld than she is, wich won't fit in with the plot so well...

I mean if she couldn't take casters magic by decrypting them then it would mean that magic kingdom would definitely have the advantage over her. If the worst happens and it looks like she'll take the whole world or attacks magic kingdom, then they could just swarm trough all the portals aiding all factions for free and form massive links to raise volcanoes, call comets and tornadoes and turn all her decrypted to dust. The solution to the decryption problem would be right there.

But if she can decrypt them and their magic the casters ought to be more carefull since whomever croaks fighting her ends up joining her.

Wanda obviously believes it will work just fine or else she wouldn't have proposed to decrypt Jack (She might have let him die instead if she wanted to keep the scrolls)

I don't know that I would like to see Decrypted Casters retain their magic. There's a lot of theory involved in the Arkentools that has yet to be explained, and I'd like to see a lot of that illuminated before we get into that. ...then again, I'm one of those guys that absolutely loves the text updates and eats the background information up with a knife, spoon and fork.

You know... With Stanley wanting to learn more about the Arkenhammer and Sizemore being already strongly established as a research Caster, I can see him sitting down with TGMTTA and going deeper into BOTH the Arkentools. Maybe they Decrypt a captured Caster as an experiment during this process... That would be COMPLETELY alright with me. As long as it is ...

For SCIENCE!

[MarbitChow]

Maybe they Decrypt a captured Caster as an experiment during this process... That would be COMPLETELY alright with me.

Parson would strongly object, however. Casters are far too valuable as units to risk on an experiment that may fail. The only way we'll know is when a caster gets croaked around Wanda the old-fashioned way. They won't just drop one for the giggles.

[Housellama]

Maybe they Decrypt a captured Caster as an experiment during this process... That would be COMPLETELY alright with me.

Parson would strongly object, however. Casters are far too valuable as units to risk on an experiment that may fail. The only way we'll know is when a caster gets croaked around Wanda the old-fashioned way. They won't just drop one for the giggles.

You're right, they wouldn't, under normal circumstances.

However, if they captured a Caster that A, refused to cooperate and/or B, they didn't have the resources to manipulate/turn/control or otherwise force, and C, was too valuable an asset to let out of their control, I could see Parson giving Wanda the go-ahead to try an experiment.

Just for giggles? No. As a calculated, well thought out plan of action? Absolutely.