Kreistor wrote:So? Does that make it not torture?
I'm not interested in YOUR sexual history. I am interested in Wanda's character. Wanda is a practiced torturer, and while she may have certain involvements with Jillian, those will not exist with other victims. Wanda has no issue using magic (Thinkamancy Suggestion) to attempt to ensure she has more control over those she "loves" than what is normal in a relationship, Wanda is vicious and cruel to her enemies. She casually orders the murder and enslavement of Ossomer and many others. This isn't a sexual tendency for her... casual viciousness is a part of her very being.
Wanda is a serial murderer, and may be a sociopath. At the very least, she is a religious cultist bent on converting the world to her own belief system using war and a brutal form of brainwashing. She's not confused about it: she long ago embraced her own cruelty, narcissism, and selfishness.
Um... Yes? If she wanted to torture Jillian she'd have had to tie her up and refuse to hurt her or something along those lines. Because the only thing keeping Jillian out of her own dungeon is a lack of skill at 'playing' on the part of her Turnamancer.
Wanda can 'play'. That does not mean she has any skill or experience in the arts of torture.
Tish, pshaw, nonsense! Wanda hasn't tortured anyone to our knowledge, these victims you speak of exist only in speculation. It's possible Book Nought will reveal some, but it hasn't happened to date. Yes, she's used a suggestion spell, in service to her side. All the spell does is encourage the target to do things they were inclined to do anyway. Also, Jillian's a mad dog killer, she slaughters people purely for sport and appears to be incapable of living happily at peace. She needs to be put on a leesh and if that can't be done, she'll have to be destroyed.
Wanda hasn't murdered anyone. She's killed people in battle sure, in the defence of her Overlord and Side. She's Croaked and converted enemies true, but what of it? Her side's enemies have never shown the slightest iota of mercy in the brutal onslaught they unleashed on Gobwin Knob for the crime of existing. Her enemies are hell bent on ensuring their vision of the Titan's will comes to pass and on exterminating all desenters. Her 'crusade' is a counter-attack launched against sides who are utterly intent on seeking battle. The RCC wants
war. So what choice does she have?
Never mind that she does not, in fact, rule a Side, the people she conquers get to live on as part of her army. What more could they hope for in defeat? It's not as if they've had their personalities altered via Turnamancy. Oh and she gave Bogroll his dream job, arguably the nicest thing anyone in Erfworld has done on screen.
Kreistor wrote:The concept of honor, and Rules of War, still exist here. Parson violated Parley, a Rule of War, for instance. There is a spectrum. Not every Side is like Wanda, so we can judge her evil as a relative. Doing things not for survival reasons (ie. Parson killing Ansom was for survival, but killing Ossomer was just for saving time) is evidence of character.
Ossomer's information was not required. They could fight the battle without it. Parson suggested scouts. Wanda chose murder. That was Wanda's choice, and evidence of character.
Banhammer's FAQ. Did not fight its neighbours, and only sent out mercenaries when absolutely necessary for subsistence. Goodminton had the option of trading Wanda for peace and passed in favour of attack.
There is no honour amongst the RCC that is worth anything other than spitting upon. They routinely violate parley and murder helpless prisoners, difference is, Wanda raises the dead so that they may serve her. That's far better treatment than she could expect from the Demons of the RCC. Do you remember Ansom floating above Wanda wishing he could murder her again and again?
That's the RCC in a nutshell. Even under the worst possible spin, Wanda's still a step up. She treats her enemies better than they'd treat her. And that's something worth admiring.
No amount of scouting could hope to match Ossomer's knowledge. I'd say more, but given the guy's currently hanging around with his family, I don't see the point.
Banhammer sent a homicidal maniac out to murder people he had no quarrel with whenever he needed money. Goodminton refused to sell a high ranking officer (who happened to be a girl less than three weeks old) into slavery to a war loving enemy who'd brought them to the brink of extermination once already. Quite the difference.