



Delphie wrote:"It was the only way Goodminton could survive you."
Urf wrote:*Has anyone started a thread to discuss and parse the heavily significant, chosen word "Decrypt"?
GJC wrote:Two guys with basically the same name in a discussion about a character getting cloned.
There's gotta be a good joke in here somewhere.


0beron wrote:Delphie wrote:"It was the only way Goodminton could survive you."
Note the "YOU". I read this as Goodminton being in jeopardy not BECAUSE of Wanda...but somehow FROM Wanda. WOW....this could be big, excellent foreshadowing....


Dunbar wrote:Bah, this sours all of Book 1 for me. No longer were those individuals making actual decisions that mattered. Everyone was just a puppet on a string, with only limited ability to make choices, as in the end the omnipotent hands of Fate were insuring the outcome. It taints all of Parson's cleverness...inspiration? Or Fate whispering in his ear?


Dunbar wrote:I'm liking the whole Fate angle less and less. I was hoping Wanda would go throw herself off the tower, just to see Fate intervene (she'd land on a random stack of hay or only be incapacitated no matter the height I suppose).
But now I wonder...is Parson a tactical genius? After all, there were close calls with tBfGK, and did Wanda's side only prevail because of her Fate? Would the whole uncroaking the volcano trick have even worked? Or did the rules bend because of Wanda's Fate?
Wanda survived a nasty fall in that battle when the Archons killed her mount, if she died there she wouldn't have been around to decrypt the volcano. Not luck, but Fate. Ansom fell for the bogroll-disguised-as-Parson trick. Clever ploy? Or Fate forcing Ansom (and the Archons, who did nothing to prevent it) to act as they did?
In essense, was the ending of Book 1 due to Parson's ability, or just due to Wanda's Fate? They could have brought in Joe the Plumber as their Ultimate Warlord, and still Wanda would have ended up with the Arkenpliers.
Heck, maybe that's the reason for every stroke of Luck for the RCC as well. To make sure Wanda would get the pliers. If they managed to defeat and drive back the RCC, Ansom may have retreated and no pliers for Wanda! So Ansom and the RCC had to get lucky with Plot Armor (we should call it Fate Armor) over and over so the story could end as it did, with the obliteration of the RCC so Wanda could get the artifact.
Bah, this sours all of Book 1 for me. No longer were those individuals making actual decisions that mattered. Everyone was just a puppet on a string, with only limited ability to make choices, as in the end the omnipotent hands of Fate were insuring the outcome. It taints all of Parson's cleverness...inspiration? Or Fate whispering in his ear?
When she'd boosted the tower, a few such nice little changes in design, decor, and accouterments had crept in from her mind's eye.
Wanda absently felt the lace trim of her boots with a gloved hand, trying to put her thoughts into words. She glanced at mirror-Wanda for strength. Oh, she did like this outfit, yes. It made Delphie nervous. It gave her new power.
Delphie put her hand to her forehead, and smiled wistfully at the floor. "Oh, dear. I was making a choice of my own, I suppose. To ease your way into Olive's service." She looked up at Wanda with eyes resigned and sad, yet still accusing. "But your choices undid the effects of mine. You should have trusted me."
"You lying ditch witch!" Wanda turned and stomped across the room, yelling to the air. "Loyal to what? To Fate? Not to Goodminton!"
"Yes! To Goodminton! It was the only way Goodminton could survive you," said Delphie, tears flowing freely down her face.
She stopped in front of the mirror again. Mirror-Wanda and she both knew Delphie was right. Wanda was defiant. She would break her Fate somehow. But, she supposed, not today. Not that way. She took in a deep breath to calm herself.
drachefly wrote:I thought Wanda knew that Olive knew; and I thought that Delphie shared this information with her side. I'm guessing that I was mistaken.
Also, the illustration is pretty, but I have a hard time figuring out where non-reflected Wanda actually is. I see the other bedpost in the reflection at such an angle that I'd expect to see her on the left side of the foreground.
Dunbar wrote:But now I wonder...is Parson a tactical genius? After all, there were close calls with tBfGK, and did Wanda's side only prevail because of her Fate? Would the whole uncroaking the volcano trick have even worked? Or did the rules bend because of Wanda's Fate?
Wanda survived a nasty fall in that battle when the Archons killed her mount, if she died there she wouldn't have been around to decrypt the volcano. Not luck, but Fate. Ansom fell for the bogroll-disguised-as-Parson trick. Clever ploy? Or Fate forcing Ansom (and the Archons, who did nothing to prevent it) to act as they did?
In essense, was the ending of Book 1 due to Parson's ability, or just due to Wanda's Fate? They could have brought in Joe the Plumber as their Ultimate Warlord, and still Wanda would have ended up with the Arkenpliers.


0beron wrote:Delphie wrote:"It was the only way Goodminton could survive you."
Note the "YOU". I read this as Goodminton being in jeopardy not BECAUSE of Wanda...but somehow FROM Wanda. WOW....this could be big, excellent foreshadowing....
0beron wrote:Delphie wrote:"It was the only way Goodminton could survive you."
Note the "YOU". I read this as Goodminton being in jeopardy not BECAUSE of Wanda...but somehow FROM Wanda. WOW....this could be big, excellent foreshadowing....

BLANDCorporatio wrote:It would be fine actually if everyone was just puppets strung along by the laws of the universe, because those do not care for the goals of anyone and are ultimately fair. OTOH, it would appear as if Fate has Wanda's interests in mind, a situation which you find annoying.
Is this a fair summary/recast?
0beron wrote:Delphie wrote:"It was the only way Goodminton could survive you."
Note the "YOU". I read this as Goodminton being in jeopardy not BECAUSE of Wanda...but somehow FROM Wanda. WOW....this could be big, excellent foreshadowing....
Mrtyuh wrote:"You lying ditch witch!" Wanda turned and stomped across the room, yelling to the air. "Loyal to what? To Fate? Not to Goodminton!"
It is interesting to see Wanda so irate when she thought Delphie might be loyal to Fate opposed to her side, since that is exactly what Wanda will be in the future. It highlights how much Wanda has changed.

name lips wrote:In the end, they're all Fated to make the choices the writers have already decided.
From the present, the future looks like a dizzying array of almost limitless choices and decisions. But the past looks set, with only one set of possible choices and decisions that could possibly have been made.
Is there EVER more than one choice? Is free will just an illusion? Philosophers have been debating these things for millenia.
She summoned Parson, yes, perhaps because Fate decreed that she would decide to do so. Then Parson arrived, and made the decisions and choices that brought the Pliers to Wanda. Were those his choices, or Fates?


Dunbar wrote:I'm liking the whole Fate angle less and less. I was hoping Wanda would go throw herself off the tower, just to see Fate intervene (she'd land on a random stack of hay or only be incapacitated no matter the height I suppose).
But now I wonder...is Parson a tactical genius? After all, there were close calls with tBfGK, and did Wanda's side only prevail because of her Fate? Would the whole uncroaking the volcano trick have even worked? Or did the rules bend because of Wanda's Fate?
Wanda survived a nasty fall in that battle when the Archons killed her mount, if she died there she wouldn't have been around to decrypt the volcano. Not luck, but Fate. Ansom fell for the bogroll-disguised-as-Parson trick. Clever ploy? Or Fate forcing Ansom (and the Archons, who did nothing to prevent it) to act as they did?
In essense, was the ending of Book 1 due to Parson's ability, or just due to Wanda's Fate? They could have brought in Joe the Plumber as their Ultimate Warlord, and still Wanda would have ended up with the Arkenpliers.
Heck, maybe that's the reason for every stroke of Luck for the RCC as well. To make sure Wanda would get the pliers. If they managed to defeat and drive back the RCC, Ansom may have retreated and no pliers for Wanda! So Ansom and the RCC had to get lucky with Plot Armor (we should call it Fate Armor) over and over so the story could end as it did, with the obliteration of the RCC so Wanda could get the artifact.
Bah, this sours all of Book 1 for me. No longer were those individuals making actual decisions that mattered. Everyone was just a puppet on a string, with only limited ability to make choices, as in the end the omnipotent hands of Fate were insuring the outcome. It taints all of Parson's cleverness...inspiration? Or Fate whispering in his ear?

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