Balerion wrote:My only concern with something like spamhammer is that it could be common enough to be part of the bot's script; all the bot has to do to avoid it is simply spam 10 times without the link, and then it's free to do what it wanted in the first place. And if it's a protection commonly used, that increases the odds of a bot knowing how to get around it.The advantage of a home grown solution is that unless they move to target this site specifically, the odds of the bot's code being able to get past it are low.
But since this would likely be easier to set up, what is stopping us from using it ? It sounds like a quick install.
Balerion wrote:No, definitely agree; spamhammer looks like it would solve the vast majority of the problem right now. I am all in favor for installing it asap
My concern is, if it becomes popular enough as a tool to significantly cut into spammers (and I have no idea how many people use phpBB and how many would use a spam tool, so this could be me being paranoid), they will develop a work around for it. And that honestly is about a 30 minute job if they've written their bots well. And the fact that the work around actually requires them to post more spam is a little worrying .
But I completely agree with you; if there is a solution already created, installing it is simpler and less time consuming than building a custom one. So my question becomes if there is anything we as the community can do to help in that process, as sooner is better than later
SteveMB wrote:That said, something needs to be done to limit the volume of spam ASAP. I'm going to be offline for about a week over Christmas, and I don't know which of the mods, if any, will be in a position to check in frequently. If the site is left wide-open as it is, it will accumulate a load of spam that will completely bury everything else and will take considerable to to clean up if the mods have to delete it all one piece at a time.
Various tools offered that are compatible with phpBB, right on their website. All it would take is Rob/his webmaster spending like 5 minutes to skim the handful of options and pick something they feel is appropriate. Because really ANYTHING would be better than it is right now.
Additionally, I would LOVE to see an increased pool of low-level mods to spam-cleanse. Take volunteer users who are active and have a record of quality posts and give them the power to delete individual posts. Even if those deletions have to be approved en-masse by a high-level admin, all the deleted posts will be from a handful of users so it'd be easy to see the power isn't be abused. I would volunteer in a heartbeat, I visit the forum once a day, at minimum.
Balerion wrote:So it sounds like this problem is going to get worse ><?
raphfrk wrote:Heh, bad sign when the spam bot thread is being spammed :p
Anyway, I reiterate my suggestion that a few simple questions would make all the difference
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