Whispri wrote:She survives. But with a greatly reduced warband, no other riders and about half as many heavies. Much easier with a Capital backing her up.
That's a question of production, not income. Barbarians do not have cities to produce units, and so will not keep up with losses as well.
It is not. Gobwin Knob has mined enough Gems for Wanda to go skinny dipping in them were she so inclined.
Grossly overstated. The one unit we have upkeep for is Archons. Their upkeep ranges from 200-500. Using the minimum, 200, 10 Archons cost 2000 per turn. Stanley had a treasury of 500000 (and the mountain was "mined out", so that's all folks), which covers that small force for only 250 turns. Charlie has SIX HUNDRED Archons, and no method to fund them except his mercenary income. That's a minimum cost of 120000 per TURN, which burns Stanley's treasury in 4 turns, ignoring that the average cost will be much higher.
They are not waging war for the sake of earning currency.
Yeah, because Jetstone, Transylvito, Unaroyal, Sofa King, Charlescomm, and Haggar (at least) declared War on GK. What's the relevance?
Jetstone has so many farms that even after losing some to Gobwin Knobs advance, they can still maintain more Casters than some Side's have Warlords, a huge field army, two Princes and scores of heavies with no money in the kitty.
So? He's begging funds from Transylvito, who is also cash strapped and forced to raid Carpool and extort their neighbours. Things are tough all over... all the time.
Being flat broke is merely causing them hardship. Hardly the catastrophe it should be according to the 'War is the only source of income' crowd.
"Disbanding" (read: the utter annihilation) of friends isn't a catastrophe? If you can't pay the upkeep, you are forced to destroy your forces. Poof, gone, dead.
Every Ruler of a Capital Side we've seen with the exception of the varlotess in question for a start. Then there are the Garrison Units. Casters, yes. Courtiers. Warlords. Translyvyto's system couldn't have worked if their Warlords hated the idea of retiring from the frontlines. Oh sure, they may still have to fight and some of them may even desire to. But falling into lunacy after a few turns of quiet as Jillian does? Not so much.
Evidence of nothing.
'The Devil made her do it' isn't much of a defence. Never mind that her soul is her own. Her actions, her own choice.
Duty. Obedience. Loyalty. No, they are NOT all her choice. In Stupidworld, someone that is forced to act in Duress, that is immediate threat of injury or death, is not guilty of a criminal act. Jillian, who can be destroyed with a thought, cannot choose to disobey orders without potentially automatic Disbanding, so is in Duress and INNOCENT of any act she does not wish to perform. That's by OUR morality and Laws.
Spearman Wrigley may well haved been happy to fight and die, but all those turns he spent guarding peaceful Cities didn't reduce him to Jillianesesque madness.
You have yet to name her insanity. Have you picked one yet?
As I noted above, the thing about Gobwin Knob's Future Era status you're ignoring is the immense sums they've gained through mining.
Not immense by Erfworld standards. Charlie's upkeep per Turn is more than 1/4 Stanley's starting treasury.
Yes that money will run out eventually, but they aren't fighting for money.
Irrelevant. GK is a small Side now with only a handful of Cities. It is still to reach the City Level cap, and so overproduces, even while its upkeep is nearly nonexistent due to Decrypted costing no upkeep.
Jetstone is actually fighting on without money. Non-Capital Sides are still Sides and Stanley apparantly went after the Elves, so...
Again, not relevant. Jetstone is in constant War, which costs units, and lowers upkeep, but still, on the knife edge of a 0 treasury, they may face Disbanding (murder) of their own units.
Faq does fall upon discovery. Instantly. Those defences are worth less than the Maginot Line.
No fighting = insignificant leveling.
The cheap way in terms of lives? Knocking over those tiny Sides she likes to prop up would work wonders there.
Prove that razing a city provides more income than the wages of mercenary work. You're Making Things Up.
She stated that she she normally raised funds by gaining bounties per kill, which is why I likened her actions to Vampirism.
That's called "Bounty Hunter". You're calling Dog Chapman a vampire, too. Since the enemy is trying to murder the people Jillian is trying to protect, you can apply the "Self Defense" Laws. It is legal to protect someone from peopel trying to murder them. Jillian is a vigilante, not a Vampire. See how easy it is to spin crud the way you do?
Faq launches raids against Side's that have never heard of them before and pose them no threat.
Not to themselves. Prove the small Sides Jillian protects started the wars. Without taht proof, Jillian is defending the weak, which is commonly known as "Heroism".
All Jillian's warband has to do is bring in enough currency over a given period of time to put Faq's income into the Black during that period. That could easily be less than the war party's upkeep during said period, for why should Faq's total upkeep exceed the income gained from their Cities, farms and so on by more than Jillian's little band costs to maintain? It as after all, a strong force of flying heavies with multiple Warlords.
Plainly false. Given Charlie's income is minimum 200 schmuckers per Archon per day, and Jillian sets her prices releative to his, by your standards, she doesn't make chump change.
The evidence in question consists entirely of Jillian's high opinion of herself. Not exactly compelling I must say.
It's not my fault you can't do math. It's there if you look for it.
But if every single one of them depended on war spoils to pay their upkeep, the money would simply run out.
False. Please review previous math on the nature of how Transylvito's extortion racket retains a profit for both Sides. It's this simple: be bigger than the Cap. Keep all neighbours small, well below the cap, and extort their small cities which make max revenue. You get more than for owning them, and the owners still get some income.
Kreistor wrote:I did. I don't agree with your conclusion. Cite and prove.
Why? So you can say 'That doesn't count, prove it!' again? Not much left forme to say that I haven't already said really, 'cept that the only thing that saved the Athenians from the Spartans in the end was Spartan mercy.
Because you Make Things Up
. You presume the nature of the rules. You invent explanations, instead of waiting for Rob to clarify.