If the seeds of these plants could be moved through a Magick Kingdom portal without disbanding, a tray full of flower pots (with seeds planted and growth spells set to auto magicaly trigger) pushed through a Side's portal could be an effective way of sealing off that escape route. I've had similar thoughts with regards to hatless Snow Golems.
MonteCristo wrote:I can see a number of possibilities about this update
First it shows the negative effects of what happens when a side grows too big; it becomes so unsustainable that they can not afford adequate defenses for some of their cities. Second the text is an interesting look into Jillian thoughts on haffaton and their fated situation. Third this could be leading Jillian to getting lulled into a false sense of security which will lead to a mistake in the near future. And then there is the name diecast, as in "the die is cast" which basically means that they have reached the point of no return; attacking this city could be what sets off the course of events that will lead to haffaton's fall, wanda's turn to faq and the eventual fall of faq
Nitpick: It shows what Jillian thinks
are the negative consequences for being as large as Haffaton, all her thoughts on the subject are pure theory, she's never been part of a Side that large. Neverminding that the Battle of Diecast is far from over, one lightly defended City does not a weak Side make. This could easily be a recent conquest for example, with most of the army that conquered it off striking for the heart of the Side they claimed it from.
Nnelg wrote:Alea Iacta Est.
Oh, just the fact that they control -what was it? About ~50% of known Erf? [/exaggeration] It's in everyone's interest to take out a Side that ridiculously large.
Although, the fact this reference was made now makes it less likely we'll see a direct battle between Wanda's and Olive's minions in the future.
Yeah, the City's name just leaps from the page.
If Haffaton is a paper tiger, how are they a threat to anyone? Isn't a weak Side the perfect neighbour? 'Sides, I asked for non
-evil reasons, 'because they're there' doesn't count.
Yeah, I'm finding it very hard indeed to believe that Wanda will turn on Haffaton. Her Uncroaked are literally their face!
gameboy1234 wrote:Just thinking out loud here. Why all the angst about Haffaton? We know who conquers Faq. Stanley does. Well, Wanda (who will be from Haffaton), does too, but it wasn't Haffaton's army. Jillian, Wanda, somebody is going to beat Haffaton. They're going to win the engagement with Haffaton, but loose the war.
Eventually. To Stanley and Wanda working together.
For a start, I've played plants vs zombies, a properly prepared garden is lethal, even to fast and armoured zombies and the waves of zombies can be huge. This City, that first appeared defenceless, that had no Tower landing space forcing Jillian to touch down in the Courtyard, only to face light defences making her think it would be easy... She charges into the Tower with her infantry, the doors are sealed behind her and blammo, she's trapped in the World of survival horror. Her heavies would of course be left leaderless making them far easier to deal with also.
Beyond that, you don't get to be as large as Haffaton by being stupid. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of idiots would gamble everything on Haffaton being the easy meat Jillian is optimistically assuming them to be. Jillian's Level 7 at the time of TBfGK she'll be Level 9. There's a limit to what she can accomplish. While as for Wanda, even if she did
knock over Haffaton, why team up with Faq afterwards? It doesn't sound like her kind of place. And couldn't she just refound her Side in one of Haffaton's many Capital Sites?
Yes, we have some idea of Faq's final end. But even assuming no weirdness relating to Haffaton dissappearing in a puff of magic, we've no real reason to think that Haffaton is easy meat.
MonteCristo wrote:Lets see...
Well as Jillian pointed out, because they are no longer doing mercenary work Faq's treasury is beginning to dwindle and WHEN it gets too low Banhammer will begin giving out disbanding orders; meaning units will loose their lives... So Jillian, by razing this city is essentially trying to save the lives of her people by giving them as much time as possible in hopes they can find a solution before disbanding starts. Furtharmore, Haffaton is not exactly a side that's worth much pity considering how they have destroyed numerous other sides already and use such dirty tactics as poisoning people with a viper's kiss after a PEACE negotiation. Not to mention that Jillian has been told that Haffaton WILL destroy her side which would give her reason to strike first. Hell as it turns out, so far all the defenses seem to be plants and uncroaked meaning no sentient units are even loosing their lives against Jillian's group... So i can't really see how this is an evil action.
Those are evil
reasons and I wasn't actually referring to this battle, but to Jillians 'total war/merciless extermination of a Side she believes to be helpless' plan.
Oh and those people facing disbandment? They're facing it because of Jillian's obsession with circumnavigating Haffaton, she has plenty of time to find work elsewhere if so inclined. The Predictamancy is self defeating, either it's suicide to try or the Prediction is false, providing no justification. Tommy's end is between Wanda and Olive. As for the Sides they've knocked over, they may have had casus belli and murdering the tens of thousands of people who make up Haffaton won't bring back the dead