0beron wrote:It all depends on whether Haffaton is Royal or not. Also, even if it isn't, the whole Titanic Mandate thing may not be a lie. In a world where "lineage" isn't a biological thing, a Royal that pops could still be considered "descended" from some original Ruler of World. We don't really know how sides even come into existence in the first place, so it's hard to pin these factors down.
The whole Royal Titanic Madate thing... in a gamelike World, being put in place by the creator... doesn't that make you an NPC?
0beron wrote:The signs of battle are...interesting. The fact that it is a level 2 means Haffaton razed and rebuilt it, so why would there be a recent battle? Especially one in which Haffaton units seemed to be on the offensive rather than defensive? Something is definitely fishy here....
Also interesting to get confirmation that city sites "come" with the name and it doesn't change when they are razed and rebuilt. Well, unless Haffaton let Wanda name it.
I'm pretty sure the City being a 2 just means that a lot of the buildings fell into ruin, the description of the City, hard as rock against ground attack with a hastily tacked on tower, fits Wanda's City like a glove.
Still, both gates being gone makes it seem very unlikely that this is the debris from the battle that left Wanda a Barbarian. If there'd been a column of Siege on the road to Coolminton, she'd have smashed into it. I suppose there are other ways to reach a gate, but all the same.
Yes we do
Arky wrote:Do we have a rough map as to where Gobwin Knob is? My first thought on seeing that Goodminton is in the mountains about a dozen turns by dragon from FAQ was actually that Goodminton IS Gobwin Knob (which would make these events and Jillian and Wanda a bit older than they appear to be).
, Gobwin Knob is one of Faq's neighbours, lying a couple of Turns flight to the East. And also, Gobwin Knob is a Volcano Lair with one road leading to it. Goodminton has two roads leading to it and is not
a Volcano Lair.
Arky wrote:But Jillian would know about Goodminton if FAQ had been involved in hitting it, and clearly she doesn't.
Goodminton is a capital site, not Haffaton's Capital. We know that some city sites are designated capital sites and only these can be capitals. That's the key to Charlie and Slately's current plan.. because Spacerock is built on a long-ago captured capital site, and they are able to move the capital back to the city of Jetstone, the original capital site of that side.
I don't think we saw Haffaton's Capital before Goodminton's fall. The city where Wanda met Olive was not the capital.
Nope, as she was popped long after the Side had fallen. She must have been, as she was popped in response to Marie's Prediction relating to Faq's destruction. And that was made after
Marie met Wanda, thirteenish Turns before Goodminton was anihilated by hands unknown.
Yes. And back when Goodminton was fighting Haffaton, they held at least nine Cities (not counting the three they lost in the fight) and were right on Goodminton's doorstep. The City Jillian called the Capital of Haffaton is far too far away from Goodminton to have been the Side's Capital at that time.
Well no we didn't. Point is, Haffaton was Goodminton's neighbour. And in part one of Book Zero, there was no suggestion of Haffaton controlling as much territory back then as they do now.