wrecan wrote:bladestorm wrote:wrecan wrote:She told him it was a trap and he would enter anyway. He entered and it was a trap. Really, that's the least cryptic thing any Predictamancer ever said.
Same expression as when someone asks you if you got your keys out of the car....
Except he asked her if it was a trap and she said "'Coss it is". Why did he ask if he didn't want to know?
Kyrt wrote:3: He talks to Slately, persuades him to return the capital status, reopens the portal, gets Sizemore and Wanda and puts out the inferno.
The Shadow wrote:Heh. Nice subtle sound effect on the portal, there. Didn't notice it the first time.
"WASS" - which, Google tells me, means "We Are So Screwed".
bladestorm wrote:side thought though... could Ace make some flame resistant clothing that would grant the fire resistant ability? A firefighter outfit and use the LFN golems as mobile firetrucks Flintstone style?
tgriff02 wrote:bladestorm wrote:side thought though... could Ace make some flame resistant clothing that would grant the fire resistant ability? A firefighter outfit and use the LFN golems as mobile firetrucks Flintstone style?
I'll bet that hecould do exactly that, but now that you'cve said it, Rob has to go think of a DIFFERENT way to save the day, just to keep from being predictable
So...what do we have?
Parson is trapped within the city.
The city is on fire and will likely go Inferno.
You need a Dirtamancer to extinguish an inferno, or control of the city to put out uncontrolled fires.
Sizemore and Wanda are in the MK.
Tram is headed home.
Parson needs to live.
1: He could surrender, cede the fight and the city to Jetstone and get the fires put out.
2: He could fight the garrison, win, take control of the city and put the fires out.
3: He talks to Slately, persuades him to return the capital status, reopens the portal, gets Sizemore and Wanda and puts out the inferno.
Charlie snubbed the King. Did Slately close the portal on his own? Unlikely - he needed to known when to do so. Did Charlie call back? If so...why offscreen? Why snub Slately at all? Or does Charlie have some other mechanic to close the Portal? But...if he did...why involve Slately?
Could Tramennis/Jetstone be a target?
noname_hero wrote:Let me check Parson's options... He can't go back into MK unless the city becomes a capital.
He won't be able to reinforce his troops by much unless Wanda makes it into the city.
Diplomacy is nearly out of the question, because Fakely has decided to go down in a blaze of glory and I don't think Tramenis would be receptive to any offers this turn.
He should be able to capture the city, though - by Slately's own admission, Cubbins was the only unit that could have hoped to avoid being found and croaked by GK units - and he's gone now - before Fakely made his rush. None of the rushing units were ordered to hide, they went in knowing they'd fight and die to allow their king to get to his throne.
He will be unable to mount a red dwagon because he's a Heavy. He knows Charlie has to have some plan by now but doesn't know what it could be. He has a suspect Carnymancy scroll and his only caster is Jack. He knows the uncroaked can turn and right now, most of his troops are brand new uncroaked.
It is easy to imagine him leading his troops into the throne room and facing Fakley. Fakely has nothing to lose, he's unlikely to agree to a cease fire or anything like that but he's sure likely to talk. He could even address the decrypted troops. And that could be a moment that would inspire Parson to act.
He could declare himself a Player, he could decide to give Fate the finger, he could proclaim himself a Ruler and ask the formerly Jetstone units to swear allegiance to him. He could promise them their own city back. He could promise them peace. He could promise them survival. He could reveal Charlie's involvement and offer them joining forces with their former friends against a common enemy. He could promise them Wanda decrypting their fallen friends. He has signamancy and bonuses on top of bonuses on top of bonuses. Wanda is not in the hex. He could pull it off.
bladestorm wrote:... could Ace make some flame resistant clothing that would grant the fire resistant ability? A firefighter outfit and use the LFN golems as mobile firetrucks Flintstone style?
Dancing Cthulhu wrote:bladestorm wrote:... could Ace make some flame resistant clothing that would grant the fire resistant ability? A firefighter outfit and use the LFN golems as mobile firetrucks Flintstone style?
Probably, but he wont if it is only to help GK. He could be dead, and if he isn't then he is still Jetstone's man. Prepared to die for the good of the side, including in a fire if it means Jetstone comes out stronger. Nothing GK should be able to do to him in the time before the fire becomes a inferno should be able to convince him to turn (betray Cubbins, betray the new found respect Jetstone has in his work, duty and all that). Short of decryption maybe, but Wanda isn't there.
Plus who know's how much juice he has left, he's done a fair bit this turn.
Thoke wrote:Hmm... So Cubbins is the only reason why Slately II & Friends aren't shackled? If I remember right, he mentioned something like that before.
I'm assuming only garrison units can hold the city from being captured, and C-Slately and his troops aren't garrison units but field units. Right?
WaterMonkey314 wrote:I don't believe we've seen any evidence for this - instead the assumption has been that "garrison" units are cheaper units that can defend but cannot leave the city and thus attack. "Field" units can do everything garrison units can while also being able to move.
Dancing Cthulhu wrote:I can't see three happening in any way, shape or form. Slately is at peace with his imminent end and he wants it to have meaning in the greater war for the survival of Jetstone and defeat of Toolism/GK. No way Parson is going to be able to talk him down before the fire becomes and inferno and convince him to spare the guy who killed Ansom and turned Jetstone's victory into ash twice and let Wanda in to decrypt the troops that sacrificed themselves to let Jetstone live another day.
Plus, I suspect he would have to sit on the throne in the new capital to switch it back.
We know Charlie doesn't/can't host multiple thinkamancy meetings at once, he would have to have been talking with someone in the MK to work out when Parson had gone through (and prior to that to tell Jojo to convince them to let Parson through). Maybe give Jojo further instructions in the Mk - all of GKs casters are there after all (except Jack), as well as a delegation from the two major conspiracies against Charlie/Erfworld as is. I'm thinking that is why he couldn't take Slately's call.
We don't seem him telling Slately "now!" as that would be far less dramatic than the effect we got from Parson's own viewpoint - looking at the portal as it closed. The fact it closed at that moment indicates Slately had received the word off screen.
By much at all, since technically speaking there isn't a lot to decrypt. Artemis and what is left of her knights, maybe Ace, the archers that died when the tower fell and the small force Slately led back into the atrium to cover him. If the fire continues to burn uncontrolled GK is going to be loosing the existing decrypted Jetstone troops, non-decrypted knights/heavies, dwagons and warlords in the atrium at a steady pace.
Ah thanks a lot, that's the first sensible explanation for this timed portal closure I read and wasn't able to figure it out myself.kiyote wrote:Charlie's afraid of Parson. When you're afraid of a person and need to take them out, you go for the overkill. One good shot just isn't enough. Charlie doesn't just wait to see if Parson closes the portal, he closes it himself, makes sure everything is burning nice and bright, Parson's trapped, and then he still sends in FAQ to make sure the job is done, because he's not sure if any of it will be enough to kill him.
Kyrt wrote:On the other hand, Jetstone had 6000 troops in the city before Parsons plan and end up with 1500 before Tram left.
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