Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Mogster2 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:23 am

I can't help wondering what Wanda would have done with two Arkentools?
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby vintermann » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:35 am

We know from Parson's Klog that there are four known Arkentools. Yet we've never seen Parson do the obvious thing, the thing that we do, namely ask what the fourth thing is. Since it's pretty damn important to his sides' ultimate objective, this would be a strange oversight - unless the fourth known Arkentool was the shoes (now extremely likely), and the shoes were known to have left Erfworld with Judy.

Maybe we'll see in a flashback:

Parson: What about this fourth known Arkentool that the stupid meal mentions?
Wanda: It's gone from Erf forever.
Parson: Are you sure? How do you know?
Wanda: ... I just know.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Azukar » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:35 am

Mogster2 wrote:I can't help wondering what Wanda would have done with two Arkentools?


Apart from looking absolutely fabulous?
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Zeku » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:14 am

Saladman wrote:Episode 56 is worth re-reading now we know the shoes are an arkentool.


CRAP!

How did I read that without realizing the red shoes were arkentools. I suppose it's partially because this is the first time a 'highly particular' real world artifact is an arkentool. Before, they were just types of things.

It's my low expectations. I'm not waiting for something important to happen, so when it does, it just goes WHOOSH. Lookamancy skill: below average.

Still, if Maxwell was attuned to the arkenshoes, then that means he made the living golems with arkentool power, which means everything adds up logically.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Zeal » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:22 am

Have to say I was entirely unprepared for that shoe to drop.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby BCCroaker » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:23 am

Where is the Lion? Is Wanda the Lion, or maybe Jill?
On another note, has Wanda had the Prediction about wielding an Arkentool yet, or does that come from Marie in Faq?
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby vintermann » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:34 am

It comes from Marie in Faq. We've seen it in a single-panel flashback scene with no text, as I recall.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Vanvidum » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:00 am

Anyone else notice Judy's use of the word 'kill' rather than 'croak'? She sounded sober and aware here, so I wonder if the shoes have any impact on the effects of the flowers.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby peteratjet » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:05 am

We have seen plenty of examples of wordplay with real effects in Erfworld. It seems to be the way things work. Turnamancers can turn people, but they can also effect Turns , and so on.

So it may be significant that shoes have soles.

Just sayin'
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby link87 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:12 am

My question is that why has jack or Lady F. never told Parson what the final Ark item was when this proves that they have seen it?
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Zeku » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:21 am

link87 wrote:My question is that why has jack or Lady F. never told Parson what the final Ark item was when this proves that they have seen it?


because written several years ago

Yes, it seems a little odd that one of his questions was not 'Hey are there any other arkentools, and what are they?' But he may have asked this almost immediately, and the answer was "Oh yea, there are some red shoes as well, but X happened to them so they aren't relevant right now."
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby wrecan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:26 am

Silvan wrote:The arkenshoes huh... it somewhat makes you wonder where they GO after this.

You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.

These Arkenshoes are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these Arkenshoes are gonna walk all over you.

You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.

These Arkenshoes are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these Arkenshoes are gonna walk all over you.

You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby wrecan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:27 am

Zeku wrote:Yes, it seems a little odd that one of his questions was not 'Hey are there any other arkentools, and what are they?' But he may have asked this almost immediately, and the answer was "Oh yea, there are some red shoes as well, but X happened to them so they aren't relevant right now."

For all we know, Wanda has told Parson about the Arkenshoes off-camera, as it were. It just hasn't been relevant because neither of them have the Arkenshoes.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Frogpop » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:28 am

link87 wrote:My question is that why has jack or Lady F. never told Parson what the final Ark item was when this proves that they have seen it?


Maybe they get destroyed (less likely), or they get used by Judy to take her back to stupid world and are thereby removed from play (more likely), and therefore aren't the 4th known arkentool the Stupid Meal will later allude to.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby youngstormlord » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:34 am

So...

Arkendish gives unmatched Thinkamancy. Pliers give unmatched Croakamancy. Hammer probably gives unmatched Carnimancy (flashy, looks like toy, turns pigeons to walnuts and vice versa, basic Shockamancy etc). My guess is that shoes either give unmatched Findamancy (not Lookamancy, but Findamancy, summoning and traveling magic) or Dirtamancy ('my boots are made for walking and that is what they do', and they'll walk all over your flowers). We shall see.
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby CF_HoneyBadger » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:39 am

Zeal wrote:Have to say I was entirely unprepared for that shoe to drop.


dangit!! I mean, Boop it!! I read that story and logged on here just to post that but someone beat me to it.

WOW! So THIS is what the next arkentool is! This is getting awesome... Ever since Parson FINALLY got out of the @#$! tunnel, these updates have gotten crazy amazing...
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby slayn82 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:44 am

I'm not fully convinced that it's the Arkenshoes power that is giving life to the Golems here, althought its very reasonable.

Wanda has been dabbling in Dollamancy (motion + fate), who is similar to crookamancy (motion+matter+fate), what if she is animating the Golems, making a senile Judy believe they returned to life and giving her motivation to get the red slippers from their hidding place and confront Olive?
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Eva » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:45 am

Another reason to suspect it gives travel power is because Banhammer just said Olive said it would be too far to travel to Judy (an obvious lie).
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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby jelissei » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 am

peteratjet wrote:We have seen plenty of examples of wordplay with real effects in Erfworld. It seems to be the way things work. Turnamancers can turn people, but they can also effect Turns , and so on.

So it may be significant that shoes have soles.

Just sayin'


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Re: Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower) – Episode 061

Postby Ambug666 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:19 am

Wow. What a reveal. I actually sat bolt upright in my seat and went "whoa." Well done, Mr. Balder!

OK, I am positive we've seen the wicked witch of the west in the background of the magic kingdom. Anyone remember which scene and can someone check to see if she's wearing the shoes?

Also, Is anyone else reminded of Elvis Costello's song?

Oh, I said "I'm so happy, I could die."
She said "Drop dead," then left with another guy.
That's what you get if you go chasing after vengeance.
Ever since you got me punctured this has been my sentence.
Oh I used to be disgusted
and now I try to be amused.
But since their wings have got rusted,
you know, the angels wanna wear my red shoes.
Red shoes, the angels wanna wear my red shoes.
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