Empires VIII - Erfopa Total War

[CroverusRaven]

I also moved people into Anas.

[LTDave]

Yes, sorry. Missed that one.

The Kingdom also occupied Anas.

72 hours to submit orders for turn 3 starting now.

[LTDave]

14 hours until I end the turn...

[CroverusRaven]

Ah, good times

[LTDave]

Processing...

[LTDave]

Turn Two

Nurkth urwa "Wa'r" consolidates…

Marbitopia attacks Hibern…

Clemsonopoly occupies Arryn, Abeth, and Marey, and attacks Bethon and Anon…

Snobshire is attacked by a Dragon! Snobshire loses 3 units or a Hero… Helia and Anor are struck by storms - no units may move out of here in the next turn… Snobshire sends units to Abeth, Marey, Ridget, Diton, Kepool, Tedon, Andent, Knemoor, and Lozia…

Randominstan considerate…

Volt occupies Kepool…

Battles in...
Marey
Abeth
Anon
Bethon
Hibern
Kepool
and maybe some others if I have missed them...

[LTDave]

Battle in Marey...

Clemsonopoly:
1 Student
1 Force

Snobshire:
1 Flyers
3 Force

Dice Roll:
Clemsonopoly - 6, 5, = 11
Snobshire - 1, 4, 3, 2 = 7

Clemsonopoly wins, but both are destroyed...

[LTDave]

Battle in Abeth...

Clemsonopoly:
1 Student
1 Force

Snobshire:
1 Ranged
2 Force

Rolling...
Clemsonopoly: 1, 3 = 4
Snobshire: 2, 6, 2, 3 = 9

Snobshire wins - 1 Student Cwoaked.

[LTDave]

Battle in Anon...

Clemsonopoly:
5 Flying Tigers
20 Force

Snobshire:
3 Infantry 1 Ranged
6 Force

Rolling:
Clemsonopoly: 5, 1, 3, 5 = 10
Snobshire: 6, 3 = 9

Clemsonopoly wins!
2 Infantry, 1 Flying Tiger cwoaked.

[LTDave]

Battle in Bethon...

Clemsonopoly:
3 Student 2 Quarterback 3 Reciever 2 Flying Tiger 1 Linebacker
1 (with Ankh of Reincarnation) Instructor
33 Force

Snobshire:
3 Infantry 2 Ranged
9 Force

Rolling...
Clemsonopoly: 3, 3, 3, 4 = 7
Snobshire: 1, 6 = 7
Tie - so Clemsonopoly wins...
2 Infantry, 1 Ranged Cwoak
Clemsonopoly cast "Invulnerability" so take no casualties...

[LTDave]

Battle in Hibern...

Marbitopia:
1 Spear Marbit 2 Crossbow Marbit
5 Force

Snobshire:
3 Infantry 4 Ranged
15 Force

Rolling...
Marbitopia: 1, 2 = 3
Snobshire: 6, 5, 5, 2 = 11

Snobshire Win.
2 Crossbow Marbits, 1 Infantry Cwoak.

[LTDave]

Battle in Kepool...

Snobshire:
1 Ranged
2 Force

Volt:
2 Crossbow Wielders 2 Mounted Qilins 3 Pixius
1 (with Staff of Negation) Shaolin Monks
24 Force

Rolling...
Snobshire: 3, 6 = 9
Volt: 4, 5, 4, 5 = 10

Volt wins
1 Ranged Cwoaked, no Volt Casualties.

[LTDave]

I think that's everything - reports sent.

72 hours to submit orders...

[HerbieRai]

To snobshire

Spoiler: show

Your enemies are marching on your homeland and with rumors of the dragon attacking your territory we will give you a chance to survive. We say the border between our nations is the Anor River and the Ridget/Merra boundry. We will be at a 10 turn truce where anyone breaking the truce must pay 30 Gold.

[Swodaems]

We've had 8 battles so far this game and I have been involved in all of them. Considering that I have Borders with 4/5 of the other players, I'm probably going to be seeing more combat in the near future as well. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not.

Snobshire is attacked by a Dragon! Snobshire loses 3 units or a Hero… Helia and Anor are struck by storms - no units may move out of here in the next turn…

A couple questions:
1. Do I get to choose the units lost to the dragon?
2. Are the dragon and storms random events or things that other players have decided to do to me with magic spells or other trickery? (If they're something the players have done, then I'll get my revenge in due course. If they're random events, then I have somehow offended either the GM or some form of deity. (Random events determined by territory size?))

To snobshire

Spoiler: show

Your enemies are marching on your homeland and with rumors of the dragon attacking your territory we will give you a chance to survive. We say the border between our nations is the Anor River and the Ridget/Merra boundry. We will be at a 10 turn truce where anyone breaking the truce must pay 30 Gold.

Can we actually enforce contracts like this? (If so, what happens if 1 side incurs a penalty they cannot afford?)
What happens when a side's treasury goes to 0 or negative?

Regardless of the answers to my questions, I cannot accept the offer as is. My counteroffer is the same 10 turn peace agreement, but I keep all my current territory. (I don't consider Marey currently mine.)

[LTDave]

1. You get to pick the units lost to the Dragon.
2. Not random events.

[HerbieRai]

LTDave, whats your views on the contracts? Are you able to inforce sections of them or do you want them 100% in our field?

That was my only current offer, but I may have another one depending on how this turn goes.

[LTDave]

My issue with enforcing contracts is that what happens when a player has no funds? And what happens when I interpret violations differently to how others interpret them?

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't want complicated treaties that could be riddled with loopholes.

On a games level, I think that if you want a "penalty clause" to exist between nations, then both sides need to put some Gold away in a trust. So, if the penalty for attacking is going to be 20 Gold, then both sides need to put 20 Gold into a trust fund held by the GM. If one side attacks the other, they lose their 20 Gold, and the other side get their Gold back (and maybe the other players as well).

On a related note, I have orders from 4 of the 6 players. I've been remiss in replying to a player's question, so the next set of orders should not be too far away.

I hope to process in about 12 hours. Sorry for the inconwenience.

[LTDave]

Processing...

[LTDave]

Turn Four

Nurkth urwa "Wa'r" bide their time…

Marbitopia acts with caution…

Clemsonopoly occupies Marey, invades Mera and Abeth... Is attacked by a Dragon - 3 units or 1 hero are lost…

Snobshire consolidates…

Randominstan stroms in Gauwill - units cannot move from this Territory next turn… occupies Tore…

Volt conserves their resources…



Two Battles to calculate...