But is it justice, and respect for life, and all that? Or is it just another iteration of the theme we've seen before, the sin of pride?
"I am not Fate's pawn, I refuse to be, I'm too strong/wise/important!"
People in this story keep saying that, and look where it gets them.
Sorry if you don't see this, I tend to only look at the comment threads for each page once or twice and I was a bit late with this one.
The thing about pride is a relevant one and I think there is a lot of pride in Banhammer that will get him taken down, but at the same time he's having pride in a conviction that is right for once, and albeit foolish it's leading him down a sensible path. A trial means he's open to believing that other people can persuade him and inform him better as to what to do in this situation, instead of believing in his own fallibility. I don't think it's a good idea that he's judge and that may be prideful, but that's smaller compared to his wish for a trial in the first place.
His pride is that you can ultimately get a choice in what you want your life to be about. You can want to make decisions and still learn that you are not the arbiter of good and bad and it's wise to follow those who are better placed to know, but you still get to choose that. And that's not what Banhammer is being presented with, no-one is giving him reasons that it's more just to act in their favour (more prudent, more clever, more deserved maybe), he's being told that fate will have this happen justice or no. His pride here is based on the idea that justice can exist.
And if things like that can't exist and he can't choose to lead it in the direction and ethics he wishes, then fate destroying him is not a punishment. He wins because he didn't cave in and was presented with one choice, to conform or be removed and he made the choice
Chit Rule Railroad wrote:Why should Fate be beaten? [strikethrough]Marie could be right about Fate being good.[/strikethrough] I just realized Marie never said Fate was good, just that opposing Fate is bad - she fears Fate, but doesn't necessarily approve of it.
Banhammer is taking a stand against a certain relationship to Fate, but he is not necessarily resisting Fate itself. In fact, given how difficult the Very Easy Way tends to be, it seems that Fate doesn't want slaves.
Since the author has described himself as an in-world Titan, I think his plot outline is synonymous with Fate. This would mean that, whether or not they realize it, any unit whose character development is sufficiently compelling to merit an arc has influence over Fate, not just Parson. Rob Balder evidently wants the story to have wide appeal, and he and his audience have empathy, so Fate is overall benign (according to Stupidworld morality), but at the same time it's like an alien intelligence toying with the Erfworlders.
The way I could see fate is benign, is if it's part of fate that the hard way is actually a relevant choice and you aren't always meant to accept the easy way. And then fate isn't a force that is robbing people of their right to be individuals but is the way things are
and can actually strengthen and test people's convictions.
And I guess we haven't seen fate differently from that yet. People like Wanda assume that you're meant to take the easy path, because it's easy. But fate isn't (at least probably isn't, there could easily be reveals down the line) conscious in that sense and doesn't 'want' people to choose either path, which falls in line with the idea of characters with sufficient personality having influence over the Plot