Lamech wrote:The only way Olive can turn is if FAQ takes control of all of Haffaton's holdings. Which quite frankly can only be defended by Olive's power and evil garden.
Not necessarily. We are not sure what role the Olive garden plays exactly. I would assume it has less to do with maintaining the large size of the side, and more to do with helping to expand the side, and Faq has no interest in expansion. Furtharmore, Haffaton is only difficult to maintain because of its large size; if Faq wanted to, they could raze half the cities pull the troops back and create a very large and powerful, but more manageable side.
drachefly wrote:I wonder just how many living, upkeep-needing, moral-weight-bearing units Haffaton has? An ordinary number for a side, but stretched thin... or actually fewer than usual?
Anyway, what happens next really depends on rules we don't know, in the obvious ways, so I'm just going to wait for it to happen.
I would assume they would have A LOT more units than any ordinary size, but the cities may bring about diminishing returns and thus they end up needing to restrict themselves to having fewer units relative to their size to keep functioning. For instance an ordinary side might be 10 cities with 10,000 units (1000 units per city), while Haffaton might have 70 cities, but instead of having 70,000 units they may only have 45,500 units (650 units per city)...
We know that Haffaton has many weak and poorly defended city within it's borders, however most sides see haffaton as untouchable. The only way Haffaton could maintain that image is if they put up a strong front; meaning having all the cities along their border well defended with troops... They don't have enough troops to protect every city like ordinary sides do, so they instead put all their strength on the border. Not to mention that Haffaton DOES have the forces to launch an offensive against other sides, but again these are forces sitting on the border.
This is how Predictamancy is supposed to be used. Wanda knows that Olive won't turn because that would end Haffaton as a side and it would mean that Jillian cannot croak the ruler of Haffaton, therefore Wanda is 100% certain that Olive will choose not to turn and try to talk her way out of it.
But isn't Wanda worried that some terrible punishment will rain down upon her for doing something that goes against Fate? Is this really what she would call the Easy Way? She seems to be trying to get Olive to turn which would defeat Fate. Perhaps Wanda thinks she has nothing to lose, but if she really believed in the Easy Way, she would just relax and assume that Olive was going to lose the trial without any dangerous Fate-defying maneuvers.
Well not exactly... i mean terrible punishment would only (maybe) occur if Olive agreed to turn. Wanda is basically bluffing; she knows fate won't allow olive to turn and thus knows this is the good way to get olive to show her true colors to Faq. Because of fate, Wanda probably does not think its even possible for Olive to accept the offer
But you also have to remember, there is no telling how fate can play out; without wanda's crafty prosecution, Olive might escape this... In a sense, this would be Faq failing to take the easy way since they refused to let Jillian croak her. Olive is STILL destined to be croaked by jillian, but now she might get a chance to do some damage to Faq before Jillian gets her chance to end her.
in a way, you could say that Wanda is not trying to risk defying fate, but instead sees it as the only way to try and make sure that Faq does not attempt defy fate. Faq has already been taking the hard route by going through with this trial instead of just letting Jillian fulfill her prediction