I'm in doubt about this redirect. Do we actually know that "Grand Abbie" is synonymous with "Master-class Hippiemancer"? Because if so, I missed it. 188.8.131.52 05:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
No, the grand Abbie is a specific Character who has no other name but 'Grand Abbie' Correct? She could very well be the master of the hippiemancers... (there are more than one master-class of any magic, remember?). But she is a specific character and needs her own page.
- Grand Abbie is almost certainly a title. The only known Hippiemancer to hold the title is Janis, whose name is known, and Sizemore (when accosting her about her opinions on endless war) calls her "a" Grand Abbie.Erf-b1-p141 The question is what the title means. Menlo Marseilles 04:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- Concur that the Grand Abbie shown is called Janis, and IIRC there's a reference somewhere (which I can't find) to "not even A Grand Abbie" being able to "quiet" an approaching conflict.
Spurred by the recent cleanup of Janis's article I decided to rewrite this article and alter the Master-class article to which Grand Abbie used to redirect. I realize I've done some stuff unilaterally here - if you feel I was overstretching my bounds just let me know and I'll put things back the way they were. Menlo Marseilles 21:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I'd like to see you make it bigger. Put something in Prop C, for instance. --Kreistor 23:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, good. Now, did you miss the recent references on the forum as to where "Abbie" comes from? You can look at Janis' page. I put them there. --Kreistor 15:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Abbie to me at least has a substantial resemblance to Abbot/Abbess. Monastic reference - quiet life of contemplation?