Talk:Arkentool - Revision history

216.185.68.30 at 20:03, 4 February 2013

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	OOOPS. I did not intend to alter Canon. Apologies. Already undid that. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 17:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)		OOOPS. I did not intend to alter Canon. Apologies. Already undid that. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 17:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Arkenshoes & other tools ==
		+	Since these shoes resemble the Ruby Slippers from the Wizard of Oz, and THOSE shoes had the power to send Dorothy back home from Oz. What's to say that the Arkentools, alone or together, couldn't send Parson (and all of the other possibly non Erfworlders) back home to Stupidworld?[[Special:Contributions/216.185.68.30\|216.185.68.30]]

	== Arkenhammer Associated Discipline ==		== Arkenhammer Associated Discipline ==

12.9.138.11: /* Alternate idea for the powers of the Tools */ new section

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Alternate idea for the powers of the Tools: new section

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	Don't forget there is a wide world out there beyond the scope of what we've seen. To think all the Arkentools were already neatly collected in a relatively tiny pocket of the world is strange and unlikely.		Don't forget there is a wide world out there beyond the scope of what we've seen. To think all the Arkentools were already neatly collected in a relatively tiny pocket of the world is strange and unlikely.
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		+	== Alternate idea for the powers of the Tools ==
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		+	It could be that the Arkentools magnify the Attuned's natural abilities/focused disciplines to 'unmatched' levels. Charlie could have been a regular Thinkamancer or had some form of Natural Thinkamancy due to his/her unit type. The Dish magnified that to insane levels, completely overshadowing whatever else Charlie had previously been able to do. Ansom was unable to Attune to the Pliers, so all he could manage to get from them was a meager bonus to slaying stuff. Given his character and nature, he probably didn't test the effectiveness of the Pliers out on a living unit, and so assumed they were specific to dusting Uncroaked abominations. It may have also been giving him a small Leadership bonus. In the hands of Wanda, the Pliers amplified her Croakamancy, making the Decrypted a version of 'unmatched Croakamancy'.
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		+	In Stanley's hands, the Hammer may just be amplifying his natural abilities, which is not a focused discipline. Without a focus to amplify, it simply grants a smathering of magic-like abilities in response to what Stanley wants to do. He wanted to get to his Dwagon mount, so it assisted him by giving him flight. Stanley wanted to smack Ceasar out of the sky, so it added a huge blast to the attack. Stanley wanted to be a rock star to go along with his dancefighting, so the Hammer rocks out. Stanley wanted to be stronger in combat, and the strongest unit type he knew of was the dwagons, so it allowed him to tame dwagons.
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		+	The main limitations to them are how focused the Attuned's mind is. If Stanely gets Croaked, and someone else Attunes to the Hammer, it may focus their abilities to unparalleled levels. And there may be a link between the tools that makes it so that no two unit types can be bonded to any Tool at the same time -- so since Charlie is displaying unmatched Thinkamancy, no thinkamancers can Attune to a tool. This may explain while, since Stanely was presumably a CWL at the time Ansom first wielded the Pliers, Ansom was unable to Attune.

Commander I. Heartly Noah: /* Arken saw? */

2010-02-18T07:01:17Z

Arken saw?

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	For all we know, there are plenty more Arkentools out there; they may just be locked away in the Arkentoolbox.		For all we know, there are plenty more Arkentools out there; they may just be locked away in the Arkentoolbox.
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		+	Don't forget there is a wide world out there beyond the scope of what we've seen. To think all the Arkentools were already neatly collected in a relatively tiny pocket of the world is strange and unlikely.

Just2quixotic: /* Arken saw? */

2010-02-18T03:44:50Z

Arken saw?

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-	Why not both? It has been said that there are four ''KNOWN'' Arkentools ~~(it has even been suggested elsewhere that Parson's bracer could~~	+	Why not both? (Much as I love the Arkansas pun, I see no reason to discard the Arkenshovel) It has been said that there are four
-	~~be a previously unknown Arkentool~~.) Knowledge of others might have been lost to antiquity, or just have been/are controlled by people who	+	''KNOWN'' Arkentools. Knowledge of others might have been lost to antiquity, or just have been/are controlled by people who
-	find it advantageous to keep their possession secret ~~(ala Charlie who certainly did not go out of his way to advertise his possession of~~	+	find it advantageous to keep their possession secret; or they might be in some far distant corner of Erfworld that we have not observed.
-	~~the Arkendish,)~~ or they might be in some far distant corner of Erfworld that we have not observed.	+	So, why not an ArkenScrewdriver, ArkenTapemeasure, Arkenrazor (Occam's Razor anyone?), etc.
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		+	For all we know, there are plenty more Arkentools out there; they may just be locked away in the Arkentoolbox.

Just2quixotic: /* Arken saw? */

2010-02-14T04:06:46Z

Arken saw?

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	Seriously, why don't I see this mentioned anywhere? Arken-shovel my foot. :P :) -[[User:Fennec\|Fennec]] 01:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)		Seriously, why don't I see this mentioned anywhere? Arken-shovel my foot. :P :) -[[User:Fennec\|Fennec]] 01:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Why not both? It has been said that there are four ''KNOWN'' Arkentools (it has even been suggested elsewhere that Parson's bracer could
		+	be a previously unknown Arkentool.) Knowledge of others might have been lost to antiquity, or just have been/are controlled by people who
		+	find it advantageous to keep their possession secret (ala Charlie who certainly did not go out of his way to advertise his possession of
		+	the Arkendish,) or they might be in some far distant corner of Erfworld that we have not observed.

81.156.89.186 at 21:59, 26 December 2009

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	***This would seem to imply that Charlie was a warlord (rather than a Thinkamancer) before he became an overlord. He may have also gone the Chief Warlord -> Heir -> Ruler route. Alternatively, maybe Charlie popped as a barbarian warlord. He doesn't seem to have a capital city, it is just a hidden fortress in the mountains. --[[User:Raphfrk\|Raphfrk]] 00:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)		***This would seem to imply that Charlie was a warlord (rather than a Thinkamancer) before he became an overlord. He may have also gone the Chief Warlord -> Heir -> Ruler route. Alternatively, maybe Charlie popped as a barbarian warlord. He doesn't seem to have a capital city, it is just a hidden fortress in the mountains. --[[User:Raphfrk\|Raphfrk]] 00:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	* Of course, Stanley wasn't an overlord when he attuned - he was a Warlord and possibly heir designate at the time.

	"It is not known whether there exist any Arkentoys."		"It is not known whether there exist any Arkentoys."

Fennec: /* Arken saw? */ new section

2009-12-24T01:08:57Z

Arken saw?: new section

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	::Yeah, it is pretty clear in that panel that Stanley can fly using the Arkenhammer [[TBFGK 31]]. --[[User:MisterB777\|MisterB777]] 18:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)		::Yeah, it is pretty clear in that panel that Stanley can fly using the Arkenhammer [[TBFGK 31]]. --[[User:MisterB777\|MisterB777]] 18:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Arken saw? ==
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		+	Seriously, why don't I see this mentioned anywhere? Arken-shovel my foot. :P :) -[[User:Fennec\|Fennec]] 01:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

NemFX: /* Arkenhammer - Flight */

2009-10-27T16:06:42Z

Arkenhammer - Flight

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-	The flight using the Arkenhammer was part of an illusion created by ~~Jake~~. Stanley's dwagon appeared to be croaked - but wasn't. So ~~Jake~~ had veiled the dwagon and made it appear that he and Stanley were escaping via the Arkenhammer.	+	The flight using the Arkenhammer was part of an illusion created by Jack. Stanley's dwagon appeared to be croaked - but wasn't. So Jack had veiled the dwagon and made it appear that he and Stanley were escaping via the Arkenhammer.

	The arkenhammer may enable its user to fly, but there is no evidence for it. --[[Special:Contributions/87.112.79.233\|87.112.79.233]] 10:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)		The arkenhammer may enable its user to fly, but there is no evidence for it. --[[Special:Contributions/87.112.79.233\|87.112.79.233]] 10:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

68.148.30.86: /* Arkenhammer Associated Discipline */

2009-08-21T06:00:56Z

Arkenhammer Associated Discipline

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	:Dan, I'll leave that to you. Last time I edited this subject, it turned back into the unruly mess its in now. Maybe if someone else did it, it would quiet down? Wishful thinking, I know. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 18:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>		:Dan, I'll leave that to you. Last time I edited this subject, it turned back into the unruly mess its in now. Maybe if someone else did it, it would quiet down? Wishful thinking, I know. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 18:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>
	::Topics merged, link provided. This discussion was cited in the edit summary in making the decision to reorganize. Please direct complaints either here or to [[User Talk:Menlo Marseilles\|my talk page]]. [[User:Menlo Marseilles\|Menlo Marseilles]] 21:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)		::Topics merged, link provided. This discussion was cited in the edit summary in making the decision to reorganize. Please direct complaints either here or to [[User Talk:Menlo Marseilles\|my talk page]]. [[User:Menlo Marseilles\|Menlo Marseilles]] 21:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	:::Purely as a tongue-in-cheek comment by a passing fan/visitor, I would think that from the removed comment suggesting that the fourth Tool links to Dollamancy is fairly obvious. Since the main page states that this wiki is not a wiki-wiki, but rather a Tool, it would explain the ability of it as that fourth tool to convince otherwise lifeless creatures into providing useful work/content for Erfworld. -[[Special:Contributions/68.148.30.86\|68.148.30.86]] 06:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Arkenhammer - Flight ==		== Arkenhammer - Flight ==

Menlo Marseilles: /* Arkenhammer Associated Discipline */

2009-07-29T21:39:46Z

Arkenhammer Associated Discipline

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	: I second the motion to reorganize this discussion to a single page. At least to me, a ''general'' discussion of whether the Arkentools have associated magical disciplines (or, if so, whether they are all [[fate]]-aligned or not) makes the most sense on this page, linking to the longer, protracted discussion of the Arkenhammer's possible disciplines as a subsection of that page. [[User:Menlo Marseilles\|Menlo Marseilles]] 18:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>		: I second the motion to reorganize this discussion to a single page. At least to me, a ''general'' discussion of whether the Arkentools have associated magical disciplines (or, if so, whether they are all [[fate]]-aligned or not) makes the most sense on this page, linking to the longer, protracted discussion of the Arkenhammer's possible disciplines as a subsection of that page. [[User:Menlo Marseilles\|Menlo Marseilles]] 18:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>
	:Dan, I'll leave that to you. Last time I edited this subject, it turned back into the unruly mess its in now. Maybe if someone else did it, it would quiet down? Wishful thinking, I know. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 18:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>		:Dan, I'll leave that to you. Last time I edited this subject, it turned back into the unruly mess its in now. Maybe if someone else did it, it would quiet down? Wishful thinking, I know. --[[User:Kreistor\|Kreistor]] 18:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br>
		+	::Topics merged, link provided. This discussion was cited in the edit summary in making the decision to reorganize. Please direct complaints either here or to [[User Talk:Menlo Marseilles\|my talk page]]. [[User:Menlo Marseilles\|Menlo Marseilles]] 21:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

	== Arkenhammer - Flight ==		== Arkenhammer - Flight ==