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==General Chatter==
==General Chatter==
Hi there! It is very nice to see you here! :) -- [[User:Muzzafar|Muzzafar]] 04:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! It is very nice to see you here! :) -- [[User:Muzzafar|Muzzafar]] 04:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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:: Also, on firefox, if you drag and drop the image, you can see the full page.  --[[User:Raphfrk|Raphfrk]] 22:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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You waited for me to do the Klog, didn't you? Grrr... --[[User:Kreistor|Kreistor]] 15:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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: No, no, I was just joking. Klogs are a lot of typing. Just suggesting you were dodging it and making me do the work. 8) Seriously, not being serious. --[[User:Kreistor|Kreistor]] 15:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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:: Heheh... gotcha. No worries. I brought the Table over from the Fallout 3 Wiki a couple weeks ago, so know more about it than most. --[[User:Kreistor|Kreistor]] 15:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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::: No worries, I got 'em. Uh, Except for the tables. --[[User:Commander I. Heartly Noah|Commander I. Heartly Noah]]
 
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You have plans for page Ansom? I saw you change a link to Prince Ansom from Ansom. --[[User:Kreistor|Kreistor]] 01:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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::Nothing specific; I just habitually use the canonical page name with a pipe to minimize redirects, and tend to include as part of the edit even if I'm revising something unrelated.[[User:SteveMB|SteveMB]] 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::Okay. I thought maybe you were thinking of a page devoted to a non-Prince Decrypted Ansom under the title-less page name. I'll go back to plain Ansom, then (since if I made the page, I'd call it Decrypted Ansom). --[[User:Kreistor|Kreistor]] 15:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
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==The TBFGKs==
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(Did some cleanup on old messages).
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Now, They have a use and all, but why do we need non-picture descriptions by themselves? Surely just the panel and the written word under it is enough? I can't really click on 'random page' except that 3 out of five are these panels. Good effort... but what are it's uses that a panel by panel description (combining both picture and words) or even a page by page description cannot do?
 
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Oh! and thanks for the work 'Xewleer 07:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)'
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==Proposed Style Guide For TBFGK Pages==
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Yes, but why can't we combine the panel-by-panel with the words only stuff? Have you tried using the Random Page thing recently? You'll see what I mean. (Please note that I'm not trying to degrade your work, just trying to figure out why we need so many pages for ONE series of things)  [[User:Xewleer|Xewleer]] 23:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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This is the style I've developed for my entries, offered as a proposed style guide:
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==Subpage==
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===Linkback for Text/Description Pages===
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Each Text and Description subpage should have a pointer back to the frame page -- include the following as the first line of the page:
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<pre><noinclude>{{subpage}}</noinclude></pre>
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[[User:Ichthus|Ichthus]] created a subpage template.  It adds a link back to the panel from the /text and /description pages, but doesn't include it in the actual panel page.  It would be worth adding to any new panel by panels that you create.  See [[TBFGK_27:1/Text]] as an example. --[[User:Raphfrk|Raphfrk]] 16:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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===Wiki Link Words===
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::Not a major issue, I think, but apparently it helps with 'dead-end' page tracking. --[[User:Raphfrk|Raphfrk]] 17:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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Generally, significant terms and character names should be linked to their wiki pages at their first appearance in each Text or Description section. (Exception: For Text pages, the speaker headings get linked even if it's not the first occurence of the name and even if the same speaker name shows up more than once.)
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==TBFGK Annotation Wiki Page Cheat Sheat==
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===Character Names & Speaker Headings===
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Common character names with canonical (i.e. direct links without redirection) links to their wiki pages. Low priority, but in general it's best practice to minimize the need to resort to redirects:
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<pre>
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[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]
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[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]
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[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]
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[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]
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[[Jack Snipe|Jack]]
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[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]
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[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]
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[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]
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[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]
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</pre>
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===Linkback for Text/Description Pages===
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Speaker Headings for some major characters (each with '''Name:''' in bold and canonically linked):
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<pre><noinclude>{{subpage}}</noinclude></pre>
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<pre>
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'''[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]:'''
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'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Stanley the Tool|OverLord1]]:'''
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'''[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]:'''
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'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]:'''
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'''[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]:'''
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'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Parson Gotti|LordHamster]]:'''
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'''[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]:'''
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'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Sizemore Rockwell|ImInUrDirtz]]:'''
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'''[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]:'''
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'''[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]:'''
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'''[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]:'''
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'''[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]:'''
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'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Charlie|CharlsNChrg]]:'''
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</pre>
===Proposed Reference Style===
===Proposed Reference Style===
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====For Talk/Description Pages====
====For Talk/Description Pages====
Enter the following footnote pointer into the text where appropriate, using an easily remembered name that will correspond to the name of the linked footnote.
Enter the following footnote pointer into the text where appropriate, using an easily remembered name that will correspond to the name of the linked footnote.
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<pre>{{ref|name}}</pre>
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<pre>{{ref|NameOfRef}}</pre>
Do not enter footnotes into the Text/Description page itself. These pages are designed as data entry points, not final pages for reading; adding copies of footnotes here is a complication for little benefit.
Do not enter footnotes into the Text/Description page itself. These pages are designed as data entry points, not final pages for reading; adding copies of footnotes here is a complication for little benefit.
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====For Panel Pages====
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====For Panel-View Pages====
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:Enter footnotes as follows:
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Enter footnotes as follows:
<pre>
<pre>
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=====References=====
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=====Notes=====
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#{{note|name}}Text of footnote.
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#{{note|NameOfRef}}Text of footnote.
</pre>
</pre>
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====For Full-Page View Pages====
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====For Page-View Pages====
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:Enter footnotes as follows:
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Enter footnotes as follows:
<pre>
<pre>
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===References===
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===Notes===
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#{{note|name}}Text of footnote.
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#{{note|NameOfRef}}Text of footnote.
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</pre>
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===Piped Links Using Canonical (no redirect needed) Character Names===
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====Examples====
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Common Names:
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The current TBFGK 133:6 page (frame view of Page 133, Panel 6) reads:
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<pre>
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[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]
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{{paneler|133|6|TBFGK|470|274|695|506|132|134|12}}
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[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]
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[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]
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[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]  
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=====Notes=====
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[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]
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#{{note|ZiggyStardust}}The appearance of the [[FoxMUD]] trooper (particularly the red lighting bolt down the face) is a reference to [http://www.5years.com/ Ziggy Stardust], a persona created by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie David Bowie] during the early 1970s.
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[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]  
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#{{note|Hadoken}}This is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken "hadouken"] attack from the ''Street Fighter'' games, in which a pulse of "ki" energy is sent flying at an opponent.
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[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]
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[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]  
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</pre>
</pre>
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Speaker Headings:
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The current TBFGK 133 (page view of Page 133) reads:
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<pre>
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'''[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]:'''
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{{pager|133|TBFGK}}
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'''[[Stanley the Tool|OverLord1]]:'''
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'''[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]:'''
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'''[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]:'''
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===Notes===
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'''[[Parson Gotti|LordHamster]]:'''
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#{{note|SafetyDance}} [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Safety_Dance "The Safety Dance"] was a 1982 single by the group [http://www.menwithouthats.com/ "Men Without Hats"].
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'''[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]:'''  
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#{{note|ZiggyStardust}}The appearance of the [[FoxMUD]] trooper (particularly the red lighting bolt down the face) is a reference to [http://www.5years.com/ Ziggy Stardust], a persona created by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie David Bowie] during the early 1970s.
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'''[[Sizemore Rockwell|ImInUrDirtz]]:'''
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#{{note|Hadoken}}This is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken "hadouken"] attack from the ''Street Fighter'' games, in which a pulse of "ki" energy is sent flying at an opponent.
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'''[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]:'''
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#{{note|Quern}}A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quern-stone "quern"] is a stone used for hand-grinding.
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'''[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]:'''
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#{{note|YyyyeeEAAAAhhhh}}This panel is a reference to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948 the opening scene of CSI Miami] in which David Caruso delivers a one-liner and then "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who starts playing.
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'''[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]:'''
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'''[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]:'''
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'''[[Charlie|CharlsNChrg]]:'''  
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</pre>
</pre>
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==RE: Paneler Hacks==
 
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Fiddled with the paneler code a bit, should terminate properly now. Let me know if you see anything else of this kind :) [[User:Menlo Marseilles|Menlo Marseilles]] 01:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 

Revision as of 19:46, 3 June 2009

Contents

General Chatter

Hi there! It is very nice to see you here! :) -- Muzzafar 04:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

(Did some cleanup on old messages).


Proposed Style Guide For TBFGK Pages

This is the style I've developed for my entries, offered as a proposed style guide:

Linkback for Text/Description Pages

Each Text and Description subpage should have a pointer back to the frame page -- include the following as the first line of the page:

<noinclude>{{subpage}}</noinclude>

Wiki Link Words

Generally, significant terms and character names should be linked to their wiki pages at their first appearance in each Text or Description section. (Exception: For Text pages, the speaker headings get linked even if it's not the first occurence of the name and even if the same speaker name shows up more than once.)

Character Names & Speaker Headings

Common character names with canonical (i.e. direct links without redirection) links to their wiki pages. Low priority, but in general it's best practice to minimize the need to resort to redirects:

[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]
[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]
[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]
[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]
[[Jack Snipe|Jack]]
[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]
[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]
[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]
[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]

Speaker Headings for some major characters (each with Name: in bold and canonically linked):

'''[[Stanley the Tool|Stanley]]:''' 
'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Stanley the Tool|OverLord1]]:''' 
'''[[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]:''' 
'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Wanda Firebaugh|Wanda]]:''' 
'''[[Parson Gotti|Parson]]:''' 
'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Parson Gotti|LordHamster]]:''' 
'''[[Sizemore Rockwell|Sizemore]]:''' 
'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Sizemore Rockwell|ImInUrDirtz]]:''' 
'''[[Prince Ansom|Ansom]]:''' 
'''[[Vinny Doombats|Vinny]]:''' 
'''[[Jillian Zamussels|Jillian]]:''' 
'''[[Sir Webinar|Webinar]]:''' 
'''([[Eyebook]]) [[Charlie|CharlsNChrg]]:''' 

Proposed Reference Style

For Talk/Description Pages

Enter the following footnote pointer into the text where appropriate, using an easily remembered name that will correspond to the name of the linked footnote.

{{ref|NameOfRef}}

Do not enter footnotes into the Text/Description page itself. These pages are designed as data entry points, not final pages for reading; adding copies of footnotes here is a complication for little benefit.

For Panel-View Pages

Enter footnotes as follows:

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=====Notes=====
#{{note|NameOfRef}}Text of footnote.

For Page-View Pages

Enter footnotes as follows:

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===Notes===
#{{note|NameOfRef}}Text of footnote.

Examples

The current TBFGK 133:6 page (frame view of Page 133, Panel 6) reads:

{{paneler|133|6|TBFGK|470|274|695|506|132|134|12}}

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=====Notes=====
#{{note|ZiggyStardust}}The appearance of the [[FoxMUD]] trooper (particularly the red lighting bolt down the face) is a reference to [http://www.5years.com/ Ziggy Stardust], a persona created by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie David Bowie] during the early 1970s.
#{{note|Hadoken}}This is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken "hadouken"] attack from the ''Street Fighter'' games, in which a pulse of "ki" energy is sent flying at an opponent.

The current TBFGK 133 (page view of Page 133) reads:

{{pager|133|TBFGK}}

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===Notes===
#{{note|SafetyDance}} [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Safety_Dance "The Safety Dance"] was a 1982 single by the group [http://www.menwithouthats.com/ "Men Without Hats"].
#{{note|ZiggyStardust}}The appearance of the [[FoxMUD]] trooper (particularly the red lighting bolt down the face) is a reference to [http://www.5years.com/ Ziggy Stardust], a persona created by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie David Bowie] during the early 1970s.
#{{note|Hadoken}}This is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken "hadouken"] attack from the ''Street Fighter'' games, in which a pulse of "ki" energy is sent flying at an opponent.
#{{note|Quern}}A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quern-stone "quern"] is a stone used for hand-grinding.
#{{note|YyyyeeEAAAAhhhh}}This panel is a reference to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948 the opening scene of CSI Miami] in which David Caruso delivers a one-liner and then "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who starts playing.
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